Reply With QuoteFear mongery and propaganda.Originally Posted by tommy00
Ye, somehow Germany is very liked in Russia. Interesting phenomenon which I can't explain.
But ordinary people don't care about Russia. I guess most Germans who "care" about politics dislike the USA more than Russia just to put things into perspective. That's at least my personal impression.
But I also have to say that in my opinion German politicians in general get less and less anti-Russian. Can't say the same about the media at all.
Heh, I see what point you're trying to make... but it's about media/politicians, not about ordinary people.
Why do you think Jesus was hated by so many and eventually was killed? Because he deserved to be hated? I'm not comparing Russia to Jesus, I just think that "if many hate you (which is not true in this case) it's your fault" is not correct.
Fear mongery and propaganda.
When Russia will be our friend, i guess me and tommy00 will try to stay away from threads like this tooThats's what I'm sayin' dawg, we'd be all over Baltic and Snoshi.
Yes, I understand tommy00 is here, battling them evil Ruskies, but Snoshi was active here too. So shut it, ese.When Russia will be our friend, i guess me and tommy00 will try to stay away from threads like this too
Besides, Russians are your friends too and they love you. It's tough love but still...
Media - very anti-Russian. But if you are anti-Russian yourself it doesn't seem anti-Russian to you if you know what I mean.Yeah, of course Ataman.. Every German media, be it newspapers, radio or TV channels, magazines, internet sources, etc. are 110% anti-Russian and rant against Russia whenever they can.
People who grew up in big cities have no connection to soil at all, and media is making good job informing them that people who can actually help them to like their country( older generation, excluding demshiza of course) are all bloody communist inhumans and their country(SU) was a terrible, terrible country.
Thanks to feudal capitalism no one have time to do anything other than work and rest.
Thanks to "atomization", human contact among people is kept to a minimum, rarely you even see children playing together on a street, every house became fortress.
I say, send all people who gew up in big cities "na kartoshku" or on some big construction, for a year, or more.
Because before you actually built something on a soil of your country, you are not a patriot, I think( and because everything is built by Tajiks nowadays, you know who is a patriot - no one).
Because every Russian have respect to Germans, the thing that is very hard to obtain. And they were always the most easier to communicate peoples in Europe despite language barrier.
Definitely the industrialist perspective here, IMO. But in a sense you are right. Too many people today talk too much and do too little.
Regarding Tajiks is bad example, no one is going to go work for the salaries they are willing to. And the whole "lets build communism" to make everything better is simply not applicable to the topic at hand, liberasti have been making noise since Alexander II, who by the way assassinated him and later launched Russian revolution funded by money of British empire.
Sorry, I should've added "most" and "mainstream".Yeah, of course Ataman.. Every German media, be it newspapers, radio or TV channels, magazines, internet sources, etc. are 110% anti-Russian and rant against Russia whenever they can.
I'm not saying they're "obsessed" with anything Russian.
But if there's something about Russia in German mainstream media it's pretty much always negative. But I like many German (nature) documentaries etc. about Russia. At least those without a political message.
Baltic does have one good point though, mainly that lack of (legitimate) opposition is never a good thing for the political health of any country. And Russia seems to lack such opposition.
So because it's negative it must be biased?
Man, are you drunk?
Look at North Korea, they don't have any political opposition and yet they are doing very well.
Nope, but if it's 99% negative and if they never ever mention anything positive it's suspicious.
And of course they usually don't just lie, it's well-made. They put things into wrong perspective, exaggerate a lot and imply a lot etc. etc.
I don't argree with the lack of opposition.
But United Russia is a center party and, as somebody has already mentioned, there's something for everybody. People are just "happy" with their work, so it's hard for the opposition if the government does a good job.
In many countries there's no party people can identify with because they ignore the will of the people. That's why there are always very close results in elections. 50% +1, usually only thanks to a coalition of at least two or even much more parties. Some think this is normal and proves the existence of a vibrant democracy, but I think it only proves that nobody really represents the people.
Maybe those guys should listen non stop to Zadornov Michail,he has effection for mama Russia to last for a long time for many people...
So in other words, they don't lie, but you don't like what they have to say since it goes against your viewpoint, and therefore they're the biased ones (and not you)?
So what happens when you start to disagree with their policies? Who acts as a moderating force on some of United Russia's more controversial policies?I don't argree with the lack of opposition.
But United Russia is a center party and, as somebody has already mentioned, there's something for everybody. People are just "happy" with their work, so it's hard for the opposition if the government does a good job.
In many countries there's no party people can identify with because they ignore the will of the people. That's why there are always very close results in elections. 50% +1, usually only thanks to a coalition of at least two or even much more parties. Some think this is normal and proves the existence of a vibrant democracy, but I think it only proves that nobody really represents the people.
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