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    Veterans take aim at support policy

    Defence Force veterans have raised concerns about issues soldiers face when they return home from service abroad.
    Opposition veterans affairs spokesman Michael Ronaldson hosted a forum in Darwin today to listen to problems faced by veterans.
    He told the crowd he wanted soldiers who have returned from Afghanistan and Iraq to receive better support than those who returned from Vietnam.
    Members of the crowd say that is not happening.

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    As one of the latest to return I think we have every opportunity to get help, and it is freely given.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Australian
    "These brigades will be fundamentally alike in structure to enable sustained operations within a new 36-month force generation cycle," Mr Smith said. Under the plan, dubbed Beersheba, each of these brigades will include armour, artillery, communication, engineer, infantry and logistic elements.
    Like they do at the moment...?

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    Atleast they won't be wrong. technically

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    Default Enhanced Boarding Capability Training

    Clearance Divers from Australian Clearance Diving Team One undertook specialist training in and around Sydney Harbour and the surrounding area over the period 21 – 23 Nov 11. The Enhance Boarding Capability Training was being conducted to prepare the Clearance Divers for operational deployment to the Middle East Region where they may be called upon to conduct Counter Piracy and Counter Terrorism boarding operations as part of Operation SLIPPER.


    Clearance Divers come up alongside the suspicious vessel in their Rigid-Hull Inflatable Boat (RHIB) during the exercise.


    Clearance Divers board the aft deck from the Rigid-Hull Inflatable Boat (RHIB) of the suspicious vessel during the exercise.


    Clearance Divers board the aft deck from the Rigid-Hull Inflatable Boat (RHIB) of the suspicious vessel during the exercise.


    Clearance Divers board the aft deck of the suspicious vessel and subdue the crew during the exercise.


    Clearance Divers board the aft deck of the suspicious vessel during the exercise.


    Clearance Divers conduct a sweep of the aft deck of the suspicious vessel and conduct their intial sweep during the exercise.


    Clearance Divers conduct a sweep of the aft deck of the suspicious vessel and conduct their intial sweep during the exercise.


    Clearance Divers conduct a sweep of the upper-decks of the suspicious vessel during the exercise.


    A Clearance Diver conducts a sweep of the upper-decks of the suspicious vessel during the exercise.


    Clearance Divers conduct a sweep of the upper-decks of the suspicious vessel during the exercise.


    Clearance Divers conduct a sweep of the upper-decks of the suspicious vessel during the exercise


    Clearance Divers conduct a sweep of the upper-decks of the suspicious vessel during the exercise.


    A Clearance Diver inspects the bridge on the suspicious vessel during the exercise.


    A Clearance Divers keeps guard during the exercise


    Clearance Divers conduct their intial internal sweep during the exercise


    Clearance Divers from Australian Clearance Diving Team ONE after the Enhanced Boarding Capability Training.

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    Good to see TBAS has been made available to clearance divers.

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    Geez, those Clearance Divers are looking all gucci'd up aren't they?

    Their role is certainly evolving. I wonder if they will form a more potent "NSW" capability in the future.

    Good news on Plan Beersheba as well. I had my doubts it would actually happen, but damn, it did.

    Now all the Army needs is a far more robust Aviation capability. More lift and more attack.

    A few more tanks would'nt go astray either.

    If you haven't seen it before, here is the proposal for the Brigade structure under Beersheba:

    Last edited by Ballistic; 12-14-2011 at 04:26 AM.

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    A pipedream I'm afraid.

    Beersheba as above is not possible for at least 3-4 years, by then we'll have a new structure to plan towards, probably as unachievable as the latest one.

    edited to add: The level of knowledge on that slide is embarrassing, Tanks are part of RAAC, but shown as separate in the sub text.

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    Considering that's from an Army publication... yeah it's a little weird.

    I don't think anyone is suggesting that Beersheba is going to happen overnight. It will ofcourse take quite a while to get all rejiggering completed, it is the ADF we are talking about here.

    So the above in the 3 - 4 years is really not that out of reach and kind of works into the Amphib capability coming online in that time period.

    I still think Army should be shooting for 4 brigades, making the force gen cycle a whole sh!tload easier. It's about time some real big money was spent on the lads doing the hard yards.

    Something that also needs attention are the Reserves, considering their new roles under the plan. If they are expected to do more, then they need the funding to back that up.

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    The army wants 4 brigades.. doesn't mean they're going to get it (think about what is needed to make a fourth brigade). As for being a pipe dream I think you are quite wrong. And it is very easy to implement and has been in planning for several years. Hell even now we could get together the right structure if we wanted to and it is really quite simple as an infantry brigade will consist of:

    2 battalions
    1 tank squadron
    1 APC squadron (battalion lift)
    2 IFV squadrons (scout and recon.. might be 1 so correct me if I am wrong)
    2 towed 155mm arty troops (4 M777s each troop)
    1 SPG arty troop (probably the Korean K-9 over the German gun)
    1 Combat Engineer Regiment
    (I have left out some minor details, mainly around the engineers. There is more to it than just one regiment I am pretty sure.)

    Think Vietnam structure. We could probably do it all now as well, with the only problems being we would not have a tracked IFV (we would use ASLAVs) the APCs would be Bushmasters and the artillery would be M777s with M198s. The army will not be walking away from this, for the high tempo ops we have been involved in recently the Army needs an adaptable multi-role structure. You can't have an army that only has one mech brigade, one light and one motorised as what happens when you are in a theater that requires a brigade sized force (say a mech brigade) and you have nothing to offer after that first deployment as your other brigades are not suitable for deployment?

    Edit: Here is the general plan: http://www.defence.gov.au/opex/exerc...df/caligar.pdf
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    1 APC squadron (battalion lift)
    2 IFV squadrons (scout and recon.. might be 1 so correct me if I am wrong)

    the lift will come from bushys and the recon from CAV so that is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose36 View Post
    1 APC squadron (battalion lift)
    2 IFV squadrons (scout and recon.. might be 1 so correct me if I am wrong)

    the lift will come from bushys and the recon from CAV so that is wrong.
    Well actually that is what I meant 1 squadron of bushies (APCs) and whatever their Land 400 successor is. And the 2 IFV squadrons will be CAV yes but after Land 400 they will be tracked IFVs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkzzy View Post
    Well actually that is what I meant 1 squadron of bushies (APCs) and whatever their Land 400 successor is. And the 2 IFV squadrons will be CAV yes but after Land 400 they will be tracked IFVs.
    That is still under consideration and there is nothing as of yet that states the Land 400 replacement for the ASLAV will be tracked.

    If anything, a wheeled replacement in the same family; Piranha IV/V would be a more ideal solution for the Cav Regiments.

    Something like the CV-90/Armadillo for the Mech Bns.

    I'm not sure if the entire FoV under LCVS for CAFS will be a single vehicle type or a mixed fleet of wheeled and tracked. A single FoV would definitely make things easier maintanence and logistics wise.

    I did read somewhere (can't remember where) that there was talk of the whole FoV being wheeled instead of tracked... who knows. Land 400 is still about a decade away from being in service.
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    Navy appoints first female Admiral

    The Navy has announced the appointment of its first female Admiral, Robyn Walker.
    Admiral Walker is the first woman in the Navy to attain the rank of Rear Admiral and to take on the job of Surgeon‑General for the Australian Defence Force.
    The Admiral, who joined the Navy in 1991, says she is honoured by the promotion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkzzy View Post
    ...... As for being a pipe dream I think you are quite wrong. And it is very easy to implement and has been in planning for several years. Hell even now we could get together the right structure if we wanted to and it is really quite simple as an infantry brigade will consist of.....
    I believe you are wrong in your assertion that the ADF could get the right structure now, it does not have the resources to do so.

    Additionally, spreading the tanks among 3 brigades is a recipe for disaster. Read any good book on mobile warfare and it will probably say tanks need to be used en masse, not penny packeted as infantry support. The ADF is now making the same mistakes as WW1 Britain did.

    Same mistake with arty too, SPG troops in Bdes FFS?

    The allies learned how to use tanks from the Germans. Pity there is no exchange post for Australian Generals in Germany...

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