Reply With QuoteACOG's for Pogues? **** they're going to cream their pants if that's the case.
The current plan for the EF88 is for four different variant's, Marksman, Grenadier, Assault and carbine. All arms core EF88 will come with a 4x ACOG where the Non arms core will use the 1.5x ACOG. There is little performance difference between all EF88's when it come to accuracy so we are pushing for no Marksman variant as it's a waste of money. People are getting confused with the EF88 and the 417. Currently there is draft doctrine of two marksman per section[ one per team]. This has pretty much been ****caned as its ****ing stupid! I wont go into the obvious and if you cant work it out don't bother asking. The MSS marksman need to hit out to 600-800m yet still fight the close fight, that's where the 417 comes in.
The 417 is great to shoot and with a good zero can easily hit out to 1000m with the right optics [S&B or spotter] . As it comes out of the box for us with a 6x ACOG its does its job well. I can say nothing will replace it for around 24 months and then it will depend on the budget.
ACOG's for Pogues? **** they're going to cream their pants if that's the case.
Minister for Defence and Minister for Defence Materiel – Joint Media Release – Update to the Projects of Concern list
12 December 2012
Minister for Defence Stephen Smith and Minister for Defence Materiel Jason Clare today updated the Projects of Concern list.
The Airborne Early Warning & Control (AEW&C) Wedgetail Aircraft Project and the Lightweight Torpedo Project have been removed from the Projects of Concern list and the Mulwala Redevelopment Project and the Direct Fire Support Weapon Project have been added to the list.
The two projects removed together represent a combined value of $4.5 billion, bringing the total value of projects removed from the list to over $14 billion since the Projects of Concern process was created in 2008.
The Projects of Concern process was established by the Government to focus the attention of the highest levels of Government, Defence and Industry on remediating problem projects.
Since the Projects of Concern process was established, 21 projects have been put on the list. Fifteen have since been removed – 13 due to remediation and two due to cancellation.
In June 2011, Mr Smith and Mr Clare announced reforms to strengthen the Projects of Concern process, including:
>The establishment of a more formal process for adding projects to the list;
>The establishment of a formal process for removing projects from the list;
>The development of agreed remediation plans, including formal milestones for the removal of a project from the list;
>Increased Ministerial involvement and oversight of the process; and
>Incentives for companies to fix projects on the list by taking into account the performance of companies in addressing Projects of Concern when evaluating their tenders for other projects.
Airborne Early Warning & Control (AEW&C) Wedgetail Aircraft
Wedgetail was approved in 2000 with a budget of $3.8 billion (in today’s dollars) to procure six 737-700 commercial aircraft which were then fitted with an advanced multi-role electronically scanned radar and 10 mission crew consoles.
The project was listed as a Project of Concern in January 2008 due to schedule delays and increasing complexity of the technical development of the project.
A formal remediation plan was agreed to in 2011, with a number of key objectives identified, including the achievement of Initial Operating Capability ( IOC).
IOC was declared by the Chief of Air Force last month and the project has now delivered all six aircraft.
Following the declaration of IOC, the Chief Executive Officer of the Defence Materiel Organisation has recommended the removal of this project from the Projects of Concern list.
The Government has agreed to this recommendation.
Joint Project 2070 (Lightweight Torpedo)
JP 2070 was approved to acquire the MU90 Anti-submarine Lightweight Torpedo to replace the existing MK46 torpedo, and integrate it with the ANZAC and ADELAIDE Class frigates.
JP 2070 was added to the Projects of Concern list in 2008 due to delay in weapons testing, integration challenges and emerging cost risks.
A formal remediation plan was agreed to in 2011, with a number of key objectives identified, including the achievement of Initial Operating Capability (IOC).
Following the declaration of IOC by Chief of Navy last month, the Chief Executive Officer of the Defence Materiel Organisation has recommended the removal of this project from the Projects of Concern list.
The Government has agreed to this recommendation.
JP 2086 Ph 1 (Mulwala Redevelopment Project)
JP 2086 was approved in 2006 to deliver a propellant manufacturing facility in Mulwala, NSW to replace the existing facility.
Last year technical and equipment issues during the commissioning phase resulted in a significant delay. A comprehensive Gate Review recommended the project not be added to the Projects of Concern list pending a status review in late 2012.
Since that Gate Review JP 2086 has fallen further behind schedule and there is an increasing risk that the current budget will not be enough to complete the project.
Based on the importance of this national capability project, the Chief Executive Officer of the Defence Materiel Organisation has recommended the project be listed as a Project of Concern.
The Government has agreed to this recommendation.
Land 40 Ph 2 (Direct Fire Support Weapons)
Land 40 Ph 2 was established in 2006 to provide weapons with specific range and target effects to improve Defence’s close combat capability. This included an advanced version of the M3 Carl Gustav and a new Light Weight Automatic Grenade Launcher.
While the M3 Carl Gustav has been successfully procured, the Light Weight Automatic Grenade Launcher was rejected due to non-conformances identified during contract negotiations.
Initial Operating Capability for the Light Weight Automatic Grenade Launcher has now slipped by almost five years.
Due to the troubled commercial history of this project the Chief Executive Officer of the Defence Materiel Organisation has recommended Land 40 Ph 2 be listed as a Project of Concern.
The Government has agreed to this recommendation.
A summary of the current Projects of Concern list is below:
LAND 400 what new combat vehicles replace the M113, ASLAV and Bushmaster PMV?
No one knows yet, it is still about 8 years away since it was pushed back. Initial time frame was 2015-2020, it's now 2020-2025.Originally Posted by Wally1967
It's not even known if it will be a mixture of tracked/wheeled yet. If there is one thing the ADF/DMO is good at, it's friggin around.
Army will be watching US decisions very closely with the GCV, but should that fall through, some of the possible replacements would be:
CV9030
Armadillo
Piranha V
Wheeled for Cav, tracked for infantry.
It will be interesting to see if the Marine Corps ACV gets a buy as well for 2 RAR/ARG.
Defence Minister Materiel of Australia takes delivery of latest Hawkei vehicle and trailer prototypes.
Read MoreDefence Minister of Materiel from Australia, Thursday 13, 2012, takes the delivery of the latest Hawkei vehicle and trailer prototypes from Thales Australia. This prototype is the first to be delivered under Stage 2 of Project LAND 121 Phase 4.
Supacat has delivered prototype of its new Special Forces vehicle HMT Extenda to Australian army.
Read MoreMelbourne, Australia, 14 Dec, 2012, Supacat has delivered a prototype of its new special operations vehicle to the Australian Defence Force, on time and on budget. Supacat, partnering with a team of Australian companies, was selected in April 2012 as preferred bidder to provide a prototype vehicle for the Special Operations Vehicle element of the Australian Defence Material Organisation (DMO)’s JP2097 Ph 1B (REDFIN) program.
^ Nice!
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Talisman Sabre will be held again in 2013?
On time and on budget, that's a first!
Yep, sure will be, every two years as always.
News updates from Afghanistan (from 01 December)...
Afghanistan: the Mad Max war
Afghan Taliban commander killed
Australia to welcome Afghan employees
Aust soldiers seeing Afghan progress
Afghan General backs cutback of Australian troops
Disapointed to hear about this
Reminds me of the similiar incident after reading "Canister On Fire" in regards to the withdraw of the Centurion's durring Vietnam.
The ASLAV finishes its tour of duty in Afghanistan:
http://www.defence.gov.au/defencenew...2/dec/1207.htm
The last two Australian Light Armoured Vehicles (ASLAVs) serving in the Middle East Area of Operations (MEAO) completed their tour of duty with a range shoot at the Multi National Base - Tarin Kot heavy weapons range in November.
The ASLAVs - eight-wheel drive amphibious vehicles – are known for their reliability, low maintenance costs and ability to travel quickly over long distances.
The vehicles have been serviced and disassembled prior to their journey home.
Officer Commanding 3rd Royal Australian Regiment Task Group Mobility Support Combat Team (MSCT) Major Patrick Davison said it is the end of an era for Australian Cavalry combat operations with the vehicles departing Afghanistan.
“ASLAVs were used extensively for nine years in Iraq and Afghanistan,” Major Davison said.
“We used our vehicles in 58 combat missions between June and early November.”
The MSCT, comprising ASLAVs, Bushmasters, a platoon of infantry, a Joint Fires Observer, a section of combat engineers and a medic, performed four main roles in Afghanistan.
“We provided mentoring support to the 4th Combat Support Kandak, provided tactical mobility around the provinces for Forward Operating Base personnel, escorted logistic convoys and served in a Quick Reaction Force function,” Major Davison said.
“We were extremely busy from the day we arrived and operated widely across Uruzgan province clocking up more than 4000km on the roads during operations.”
The MSCT had a wide range of experienced soldiers within its ranks; some had been deployed to Afghanistan before in their ASLAV operating roles.
Trooper Michael McSorley is an ASLAV gunner with Mentoring Task Force 4 (MTF 4) and deployed to Afghanistan in 2010 with Mentoring Task Force 1 as an ASLAV driver.
“I’ve seen a lot of changes in Afghanistan during this deployment since being here two years ago,” Trooper McSorley said.
“For me Afghanistan feels safer now compared to back then.
“Two years ago there were a lot more contacts and IED [improvised explosive device] incidents. The work done since then paved the way for us feeling safe, particularly around Tarin Kot.”
Trooper McSorley said the ASLAV vehicles were highly effective performing their combat roles working in and outside Tarin Kot.
“The shock factor they brought to the party assisted the Australian Mentor led forces here,” he said.
“Being a part of one of the last two crews to operate them in the MEAO was special for me.
“We trained all year and by the time we got to deploy it was a good feeling.”
MTF 4 was the first deployment for ASLAV driver Trooper Peter Chivers,
“It was a busy deployment in the beginning and we had a lot of jobs on in a short period of time,” Trooper Chivers said.
“As a driver I also took care of the maintenance of the vehicle.
“The toughest part of my job was dropping the belly armour each month to do maintenance.”
Trooper Chivers said it was a privilege to be one of the last troopers to operate an ASLAV in the Middle East Area of Operations.
“It’s a bit of history and I’ll look back on it and know I was one of the last to drive an ASLAV in Afghanistan,” he said.
Hahaha, the guys a bloody comedian!!
On one hand he wants half of Australia's commitment to Uruzgan gone now, yet he wants our soldiers and Aussie tax payers to provide the 4th Brigade and the province with:
>Paved roads (get your lot to do it).
>NVG's (not on your fvcking life).
>Air support for on going operations (with what?)
>Helicopters for AME...
All for free.
FFS, the arrogant bastard isn't asking for much is he?
The best quote: "I have brought security for Uruzgan," General Zafar said through an interpreter.
Some interesting news clips from past years (but never posted here before)...
^Defence Minister Materiel of Australia takes delivery of latest Hawkei vehicle and trailer prototypes.
Read More
A news clip from the above occasion...
Afghanistan - Australian Special Operations Task Group
Australian soldiers from the Special Operations Task Group conduct a range practise in Uruzgan province, southern Afghanistan.
Australian soldiers from the Special Operations Task Group conduct a range practise in Uruzgan province, southern Afghanistan.
Australian soldiers from the Special Operations Task Group conduct a range practise in Uruzgan province, southern Afghanistan.
Afghanistan - Australian Special Operations Task Group
Australian soldiers from the Special Operations Task Group prepare to board a U.S. Army CH-47 Chinook helicopter at Multi-National Base – Tarin Kot, Uruzgan province, southern Afghanistan, as they head out on another mission.
Afghan Provincial Response Company – Uruzgan and Australian Special Operations Task Group personnel prepare to board a U.S. Marine Corps CH-53 Sea Stallion helicopter at Multi National Base - Tarin Kot for a mission in Uruzgan province, southern Afghanistan.
Australian soldiers from the Special Operations Task Group board a U.S. Army CH-47 Chinook helicopter after a mission in Uruzgan province, southern Afghanistan.
A U.S. Army helicopter overflies Australian Special Operations Task Group and Afghan National Security Force elements during a cordon and search mission in Kandahar province, southern Afghanistan.
A U.S. Army Black Hawk helicopter prepares to land on a hillside to extract Afghan National Security Force and Australian Special Operations Task Group elements after completing a clearance of a cave system in Uruzgan province, southern Afghanistan.
An Australian soldier from the Special Operations Task Group watches for insurgent activity during a mission in Uruzgan province, southern Afghanistan.
Two Australian soldiers from the Special Operations Task Group take cover during a mission in Uruzgan province, southern Afghanistan.
An Australian soldier from the Special Operations Task Group provides security for Afghan and Australian personnel preparing to board a U.S. Marine Corps CH-53 Sea Stallion helicopter after a counter-narcotics mission in Uruzgan province, southern Afghanistan.
Australian soldiers from the Special Operations Task Group monitor activity from an overwatch position as force elements clear a compound nearby, in Helmand province, southern Afghanistan.
An Australian special forces soldier walks ahead of his Afghan National Security Force and Australian Special Operations Task Group comrades after a mission in Helmand province, southern Afghanistan.
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