The black weapons are a problem but the tan/green ones aren't so bad. The thing that will most likely get a patrol spotted is the ANA. They stand out like a dogs balls in their woodland uniforms.Originally Posted by goose36
I believe, probably wrong though, that Australia has the same camo pattern since WW1? Is this true? I wear ABU's so don't hate me for being awesome.
Never mind, just saw the pics above.
No cam at all until the late 80's. Greens before that, some sort of khaki clobber before that.
The taliban don't have magnified optics on their weapons and probably don't have binoculars either most of the time, camo might definitely have an impact on the accuracy of iED detonations and ambush attacks.
Camo might not have much of an effect in afghanistan with the overt patrolling with ANA, but in other conflicts it certainly would. It would also make a difference in training. It's a case of setting a higher standard for camo for future conflicts.
Also would a non special forces soldier who paints his rifle and tries to camo his other gear be made fun of or maybe discouraged? Sounds to me like that's the case if there's no policy for or against camo and of all the photos on this thread, no normal infantry camo their weapons or gear.
the official ruling with painting of weapons is any unit deployed or preparing to deploy is allowed to paint. its up to the Q to order the paint and just follow the rules. outside of that the CO can allow it.
usually its only Recon/Snipers but i've seen Rifle Coys OS do it. why not i say, every little bit helps. any way arts and cratfs is fun!
Rifle Sleeves have gone out of fashion and i haven't one used in years. i'm not a fan personally.
Exercise Predator Strike 2012.
Now this is a perfect use of camo from one of our other threads. Right down to the painted face...Oh wait...
Painting F88's... Ye gads...20 years ago even the Recon lads tempted fate doing so at 3RAR and most if I recall correctly stuck to using DPCU tape so it could be removed without coming under notice.
Everything old is new again as we go round and round.
The cam tape we used in Timor required a lot of scrubbing to get rid of the residue. I can imagine people getting a little testy with that particular brands use. We did a bit of painting in 97, it was easy to remove stencil paint, so easy in fact there wasn't much left to clean up at the end of ex and it's usefulness was probably only measured in days.
We generally still now use Medical strapping tape and paint as we did in Timor, we'd raid the RAP for tape and make an "Arts and Crafts" arvo out of it. Initally in Timor guys would use sleeve's so we could tack our selves on to rifle Pls without looking out of place (Clean faced/wpns, Gay Blue caps) and drop off and cam/sleeve up before buggering off. As the tours went on the Rfl Coys started camming up their rifles so they became less of a combat indicator of a recce element so we went back to tape and paint. It kept the Armorers happy as it was reasonably easy to remove and most guys would clean it off and replace the cam 3-4 times during the tour. My 203 was a both a sleeve and a tape and paint job and never suffered from issues from sustained firing
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If its done properly, with the right materials and actually aides in Cam and concealment I'm all for it, but I have seen some **** jobs that scram "Look at me" more than anything
Ahhh recon and there arts and craft sessions. What new bit of kit do I have to needlessly paint over today?
Shut it you. BiZ posted and that simply makes the thread cooler...
Ahhh recon and there arts and craft sessions. What new bit of kit do I have to needlessly paint over today?
I smell a mortarman, or perhaps a knuckle dragger from DFSW. Nope, that's the smell of toasted sambo's, got to be a mortarman...
Delicious sambos. Spose I should cam up my sandwich press for that tactical goodness. Did use it more than my rifle.I smell a mortarman, or perhaps a knuckle dragger from DFSW. Nope, that's the smell of toasted sambo's, got to be a mortarman...
"Someone is trying to send us morse code, wait, no, that's the mortar line, must be the stainless jaffle iron lid working overtime." Give me a yell next time your away, I'll send you a spare set of hinge pins in a care package half way through.
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