Mass Effect 3

[Al-Bundy]

"Professional" video game journalism from IGN.

[Mikhael]

I think you should be able to bear at least one somewhat diverging opinion.

Well there are people who like Uwe Bolls movies and think that Transformers movies are masterpieces but lets be frank those opinions are laughable.

Without dissenting opinions there are no meaningful discussions, just cycle jerks.

You would be right but you do the exact thing in your previous posts. Hypocrite.


ME was the last franchise of bioware that i liked now they ****ed it up. I practically knew from the start there would be no changing of the ending because they are corporate drones without creativity. And multiplayer in a single player story is retarded killing and killing hordes of enemies gets really boring i played maybe 2-3 hours. But there would be an AWESOME multiplayer mode for this game and its called CO-OP main story campaign for 3 players. Now that would be something. And its laughable when people are telling themselves that 95% of the game is super only the ending is ****ty Nope... The whole game have some major issues. Small areas ,practically nothing to do, 80% of the game you are killing cerberus the rest are reaper husks, most of the side quest are made of scanning planets and automatically taking the quest item rest of side missions are short and insignificant and the quest list is just retarded etc etc etc. ME3 has its "moments" like main quest on Tuchanka and Mordins death but the rest is just MEH it would be more bearable if i could play it with my two buddies. When the ending came i was "what the **** just happened?" then i saw buy moar DLC and thats it... my adventure with bioware which started at Baldurs Gate has ended.


Some good things came from this cluster-**** like showing the hypocrisy of big corporations and **** sucking of major "gamer sites" i knew its from the start but now they flashed it like a pervert in a park. And lets be frank people defending the endings are morons pure and simple. How you can defend something with major plot holes ( someone wrote there are more than 30 ) and say its artistic creativity? Its just beyond retarded. And dont even start with artistic integrity... for the last time games are not art some parts may be artish.

[Al-Bundy]

..... And dont even start with artistic integrity... for the last time games are not art some parts may be artish.

Agreed with everything, already been said multiple times in this thread.

About the last line.
Lets suppose it is art.
So what?
Art cannot be criticized now!
I create something, I say it is art and that's it.
I somehow gain artistic immunity.

That's nonsense. Art was 99% of the cases commissioned art and had patrons that financed the projects. Renaissance happened because some rich merchants(Medici family) wanted to decorated their estates and commissioned work to the artists (Da Vinci for example) of that era. In the end the patrons opinion about the art mattered more of the artist because they payed for everything.

[Kvakva]

And dont even start with artistic integrity... for the last time games are not art some parts may be artish.

[kalerab]

Well there are people who like Uwe Bolls movies

Some Uwe Bolls movies were so bad that they were good. House of the dead - worst movie I ever saw and yet I saw it thrice just for the fvck of it. Giant shark jumping out of water and hammering down airliner, submarine controlled by joysticks. That was something unique

Anyway, game had some major issues beside ending - meaning side quests and journal which were just plain awfull, however despite that I enjoyed it right to last 5-10 minutes. In ME1 there was much more "nothing to do parts" than in both sequels combined, your opponents were mainly geth with some NPCs shouting "I will destroy you" with different describtion and plot made sometimes little to no sense (why did Saren need Conduit in the first place?), but that didnt make it a bad game. So, yeah, I think that up to the ending game was really good and I could overlook some issues such as minor side-quests or Cerberus becoming suddenly massive armed forces with it´s own space cruisers and thousands of operatives.

"Professional" video game journalism from IGN.

Ironicly enough something like week after this piece by Moriarty, editor-in-chief of IGN, editor-in-chief of IGN Xbox section and one PS3 editor were hammering down ME3 endings as one grand BS on one of IGN shows.

[Kvakva]

or Cerberus becoming suddenly massive armed forces with it´s own space cruisers and thousands of operatives.

Don't get me started on it. Why was Cerberus the main antagonist? They easily could wage a full-scale war on half the galaxy head on. I was expecting up to a point that you'll persued Tim to your side and add them to war assets. Was expecting fights vs reaper forces not cerberus. I did not consider or saw cerberus soo evil, saw them like salarian STGs. Glad to see i was not the only one who got pissed and confused by the journal.

[Al-Bundy]

Ironicly enough something like week after this piece by Moriarty, editor-in-chief of IGN, editor-in-chief of IGN Xbox section and one PS3 editor were hammering down ME3 endings as one grand BS on one of IGN shows.

Will post that video if not posted already.

Don't get me started on it. Why was Cerberus the main antagonist? They easily could wage a full-scale war on half the galaxy head on. I was expecting up to a point that you'll persued Tim to your side and add them to war assets. Was expecting fights vs reaper forces not cerberus. I did not consider or saw cerberus soo evil, saw them like salarian STGs. Glad to see i was not the only one who got pissed and confused by the journal.

Many things did not make sense.
During the game i was thinking "why i am fighting Cerberus and since when Cerberus become so powerful that had sleeper agents and forces on every system and enough resources and manpower to stage an attack on the citadel?
According to ME2 codex they almost got bankrupt with Lazarus project and the Normandy 2. They were like 120-150 agents top. In ME3 they are under every rock even in Tuchanka.

Ok may they were fighting a proxy war on behalf of the reapers as indoctrinated auxiliaries but then it is revealed they were not.

[Al-Bundy]

I am hearing his original review and i want to throw up.
Can he be more of a tool and above all what a f.... douche.
Listen to the words he uses, the phrasing and the message he is trying to pass.


In his later videos he claims none of the ign editors find anything wrong with the ending.
Then he makes other videos ranting and insulting the gamers that did not like the ending.
And later we have this.
http://uk.ign.com/videos/2012/03/26/...-3-spoilercast

[kalerab]

Will post that video if not posted already.

Here

http://sk.twitch.tv/ignlive/b/312608593

edit: Too late

[Kvakva]

Will post that video if not posted already.



Many things did not make sense.
During the game i was thinking "why i am fighting Cerberus and since when Cerberus become so powerful that had sleeper agents and forces on every system and enough resources and manpower to stage an attack on the citadel?
According to ME2 codex they almost got bankrupt with Lazarus project and the Normandy 2. They were like 120-150 agents top. In ME3 they are under every rock even in Tuchanka.

Ok may they were fighting a proxy war on behalf of the reapers as indoctrinated auxiliaries but then it is revealed they were not.

I was at one point thinking - oh okay they yoinked the catalyst, so they gonna build it and i'm gonna go talk to Tim and convince/shoot/take etc him to our side. But noooo.
If Cerberus would commit all their arsenal, ship etc (they had in ME3) to fight the reapers we would probably just overrun them.

[cem40]

Many things did not make sense.
During the game i was thinking "why i am fighting Cerberus and since when Cerberus become so powerful that had sleeper agents and forces on every system and enough resources and manpower to stage an attack on the citadel?
According to ME2 codex they almost got bankrupt with Lazarus project and the Normandy 2. They were like 120-150 agents top. In ME3 they are under every rock even in Tuchanka.

Ok may they were fighting a proxy war on behalf of the reapers as indoctrinated auxiliaries but then it is revealed they were not.

actually i always thought what the hell reapers doing on earth and other planets... They had a good strategy worked for more than million years... Take the citadel , shut off the mass relay network and purge the galaxy system by system... No communication , no united galaxy force most of the systems will wait 200 hundred years to be purged and they even won't know there are reapers on the galaxy or there are reapers at all... They lost too many capital ships acording to codex... Because turians and other races united their forces ... Why are the reapers changed their strategy and when they wanted to seize citadel they did it so fast , why didn't they do it at the beginning and why didn't they shut off mass relays after they seized it... Questions Questions no real answers oh wait there is one artistic vision...

[JCR]

actually i always thought what the hell reapers doing on earth and other planets... They had a good strategy worked for more than million years... Take the citadel , shut off the mass relay network and purge the galaxy system by system... No communication , no united galaxy force most of the systems will wait 200 hundred years to be purged and they even won't know there are reapers on the galaxy or there are reapers at all... They lost too many capital ships acording to codex... Because turians and other races united their forces ... Why are the reapers changed their strategy and when they wanted to seize citadel they did it so fast , why didn't they do it at the beginning and why didn't they shut off mass relays after they seized it... Questions Questions no real answers oh wait there is one artistic vision...

Shepard prevented that in ME1

But why exactly they don't simply attack the Citadel in ME3 is never explained.

[Abolith]

Shepard prevented that in ME1

But why exactly they don't simply attack the Citadel in ME3 is never explained.

or why some stupid starchild that lives son the citadel couldn't just flip the damn switch himself IN THE FIRST PLACE....ME3 isn't full of plot holes, it has freakin canyons running through it.

[Kvakva]

Found this on internets

[Al-Bundy]

I remember a comment by one of the many disappointed fan of the series.
It was among the lines "You can drive a freaking dreadnaught through the plot-holes of ME3".

Truth be told the plot holes were starting to pop-up quite early in the game. After the attack on the Cerberus base the pace got accelerated.
After you start ascending in the elevator and see the ghost thing the little narrative coherence left was totally lost and the feeling was "is this the ending from another game?!", "EHHHHH!!!", "WTF I am watching?"....

The game shows it was rushed , unpolished, marketing scheme, dubious business practices.... and had no passion in it.