Yes, it means the same in other cultures too.Originally Posted by jcbauerca
Thanks thought so, when I was growing up in Asia the swastika sign was all over the place.
Then when I started watching "Combat" I wondered why the Germans were using a Buddhist sign. hmmm never understood the Germans, ended up marrying one and what ever they say about German women is correct.
What next someone is going to say I run the Illuminati. I did have hopes seeing the title of the topic. I should have not expected any change from other topics.
The double headed eagle is actually the Phoenix bird of ancient Egypt.
From The Phoenix: An Illustrated Review of Occultism and Philosophy By Manly Palmer Hall,
"Among the ancients a fabulous bird called the Phoenix is described by early writers ... in size and shape it resembles the eagle, but with certain differences. The body of the Phoenix is one covered with glossy purple feathers, and the plumes in its tail are alternately blue and red. The head of the bird is light in color, and about its neck is a circlet of golden plumage. At the back of its back the Phoenix has a crest of feathers of brilliant color ...
The Phoenix, it is said, lives for 500 years, and at its death its body opens and the new born Phoenix emerges. Because of this symbolism, the Phoenix is generally regarded as representing immortality and resurrection ... The Phoenix is one sign of the secret orders of the ancient world and of the initiate of those orders, for it was common to refer to one who had been accepted into the temples as a man twice-born, or reborn. Wisdom confers a new life, and those who become wise are born again."
Hall also stated that the eagle also represents the Phoenix.
Again Hall-"These were the immortals to whom the term 'phoenix' was applied, and their symbol was the mysterious two-headed bird, now called an eagle , a familiar and little understood Masonic emblem ."
And Albert Pike-"... the Eagle was the living Symbol of Egyptian God Mendes ... and the representative of the Sun ..."
You can trace the five pointed star to ancient Egypt as well.It is also described as the blazing star representing Sirius the dog star.
Symbols sometimes have multiple meanings in Occult tradition.They are often sigils in alchemy and "magick"
Its not a buddhist symbol though they may be the most prevalent users in modern times); the swastika and various sub- and preforms have been found all over the world dating back thousands of years.
Fleur de lis
my old unit 2nd ACR
Fleur de lis
Now theres an interesting transference.
The fleur de lis , lilly or Iris is an old christian symbol, depending on the version you subscribe to its either a symbol of the virgin mary or the trinity (the three point flower) but is mostly thought of as being a symbol of Jesus since it tends to bloom around easter. Not in any way relevant to Jesus life but interesting symbology in Europe to parish priests trying to batter teaching into the heads of peasants who think two miles down the road is strange and exotic foreign places.
If you were a medievil monarch you wanted to prove God was on your side and that you could prove your lineage went back literally to Jesus, check out Edward 1 (Longshanks, Hammer of the Scots, Mel Gibsons least favourite Royal) of England and his provenance goes back through Jesus to Adam and God and you can't get more respectable than thatSticking a religious sign of Jesus served to point that out to the more dense minded of your followers who thought competence or the ability to turn up on a given day with enough armed and armoured retinue to deflect compasses that no, they weren't in charge and they never would be cos God wasnt on their side.
Many monarchs took on the religious bling and showed off a fleur de lys to get a bit of medievil respec' from their fellow kings. The French were the ones who started the fashion for the Fleur De Lys and the ones who wore it best although since they got shortened by Monsieur Guillotine's best invention its been left up to their English nephews to carry on the fashion.
In the military sense though its travelled down from the French monarchs to the soldiers who followed the French monarch to the soldiers of the French state and then to the people who want to keep a French identity or origin.
Last edited by nemowork; 10-29-2010 at 09:19 PM. Reason: spelling is a science not an art
The Lambda should be noted,
Being the symbol engraved on Spartan Shields, and later a symbol of NATO vehicles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambda_(letter)
The swastika was already used by Germanic tribes in the Bronze Age and I guess that's where the Nazis took it from.
The eagle already was on the Prussian flag so barely something new and surely not inspired by Mussolini while some sources claim that the salute was taken over from the Duce. Other sources claim it originates from the Germanic tribes, too.
Well... the search of a symbol that was neutral and that was seen at a lot of distance, influenced enough. The white flag as fund and a red cross is seen in the distance. The Spanish ships and English ship (S.XIV) were already taking this flag to be identified in the distance.
And if I'm not mistaken all are forbidden in Germany accept in documentations and some forms of art (including "Indiana Jones" movies).
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