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    In an interview, Beglitis stressed that his government is looking to deepen co-operation with Turkey. But it is concerned about Turkey's rising power.
    http://news.ca.msn.com/world/cp-arti...entid=26225836

    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/1...d/us_us_greece

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    the thread title is a bit alarmist but the article is legit and from a major news agency.

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    Thank you for posting this.

    I am now on my couch with coke and popcorn.

    Let the games begin

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    its a legit topic.
    the current Greek administration uses the country and their time in power to pursue their personal agenda. George Andreas Papandreou (aka GAP) he wants to do a career in an international organization, his big dream is UN. the high caliber ministers are in a competition for his position. therefore they will do everything that can glorify them in international eyes, like coming in agreement with turkey splitting the continental shelf in half (which is obscure).

    on the other side of Aegean, they heading for the final battle between kemalists and neoottomans. the neoottoman after the referendum have the upper hand and they start shifting the balance of both in military and judicial bodies on their favour. that means that the kemalists have a very short period of time before they are history for ever. their window of opportunity starts around march and expires around September, this the optimal period for operation in Thrace (is period that the soil is not wet allowing tank movements ).
    the scenario is that the kemalists will stage an incident and small war in order to establish a dictatorship arresting all the neo-ottoman administration and bureaucracy. if erdogan succeeds on coming in an agreement with GAP for aegean then it will be quite difficult for the kemalists to stage anything. so the statement from mr begliti aint nothing more than a preparation of the greek public for the upcoming agreement.

    p.s. the suicide attack it was the free episode of the final battle, in few days MIT (and not the police) will announce that it was planted and executed by extremist Muslim.

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    You wrote so much strange stuff I dont know where to start. First stop throwing around words like Neo-Ottoman of which you have no clue about. Second good to see that you have so much knowledge about Turkish politics and events...like with the assumption that the MIT will declare who were the real attackers while a PKK-group already claimed responsability. Furthermore even better that you dismiss >40% of the Turkish population as marginal and unimportant...especially regarding politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewnidas View Post
    its a legit topic.
    the current Greek administration uses the country and their time in power to pursue their personal agenda. George Andreas Papandreou (aka GAP) he wants to do a career in an international organization, his big dream is UN. the high caliber ministers are in a competition for his position. therefore they will do everything that can glorify them in international eyes, like coming in agreement with turkey splitting the continental shelf in half (which is obscure).
    I wouldn't be in the least surprised if Mr GAP is ultimately seeking an Internationalist job. But what could he possibly do to trample on International laws that would endanger Greek sovereignty? Better to keep a look out for any would be ammendment to the Law Of The Sea.

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    concern ≠ fear

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    Quote Originally Posted by valtrex View Post
    concern ≠ fear
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW0z5b01kQA

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    They laugh because invading islands without Turkish population makes no sense. What makes sense is to look for a compromise (which does not means always 50:50) in the Aegean for resources respectively transit, and to stop ridiculous claims like "the Aegean is a Greek lake". Attitudes likes this will of course create a reaction...and this reaction may cause (unnecessary) concerns/fear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BorisA View Post
    They laugh because invading islands without Turkish population makes no sense. What makes sense is to look for a compromise (which does not means always 50:50) in the Aegean for resources respectively transit, and to stop ridiculous claims like "the Aegean is a Greek lake". Attitudes likes this will of course create a reaction...and this reaction may cause (unnecessary) concerns/fear.
    that sure is ridiculous. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by BorisA View Post
    They laugh because invading islands without Turkish population makes no sense. What makes sense is to look for a compromise (which does not means always 50:50) in the Aegean for resources respectively transit, and to stop ridiculous claims like "the Aegean is a Greek lake". Attitudes likes this will of course create a reaction...and this reaction may cause (unnecessary) concerns/fear.

    what do you mean by compromise?

    giving up sovereign territory?

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    ...What makes sense is to look for a compromise (which does not means always 50:50) in the Aegean for resources respectively transit...

    This means that in certain areas, close to the Turkish shore mixed/joint projects can be launched. Furthermore int. transit routes via corridors etc can be determined.
    There are plenty of possibilities.

    But if these are intolerable than accept the status quo.

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    Would you consider a compromise with Armenia? With say int. transit routes via corridors to the Black Sea over Turkish soil without control or policing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BorisA View Post

    But if these are intolerable than accept the status quo.
    Greek territorial waters are not up for compromise and never will. We can negotiate a small few areas of the Aegean for possible resource sharing in the high seas.

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