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    Default Obama To Announce Two Year Federal Employee Pay Freeze

    As far as symbolic moves towards budget cutting go, this is a decent one... Obama is set to announce a pay freeze for federal employees. The details aren't clear. No word yet on how long the freeze will last, or if there will be exceptions.

    This is an idea that's been suggested for awhile.

    Update: According to headlines, the freeze will go for two years, and is expected to save the government a total of $28 billion. Not bad.


    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/feder...#ixzz16gxVVUaA

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    This is not good news.
    The number of federal employees being paid $150k+ per year has doubled since Obama took office. Now a "freeze" will lock that into place.

    We need cuts, not freezes.

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    We'll likely see a Pay freeze in Milpay as well before this is done.

    Gates is already formulating Tricare increases. Which by the way if your at Ft. Drum you know there is no Army Hospital so if your shot on a range, or your kid breaks his arm you go to Samaritan Medical Center in Watertown. Clinton already threw the retirees aged 65 older into Medicare back in 98-99
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jobu View Post
    This is not good news.
    The number of federal employees being paid $150k+ per year has doubled since Obama took office. Now a "freeze" will lock that into place.

    We need cuts, not freezes.
    Exactly... its the same as when stores hike the price 50% and then advertise a 25% discount.

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    Not that I'm one of the highly paid federal employees I'm only a GS-07, but here's the reason why they have "doubled" and trust me I'm not a fan of Obama so please don't take it like that.

    The government is moving away from paying money out to contractors, even here in my state. So in order to make up for the work that these contractors are/were doing, they are replacing them with federal civilians. This is to have better oversight on their productivity and on the people that are hired. Now are outright cuts and pay freezes necessary, sure but how about we get rid of all the dead weight employees that are around, I certainly know a few

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    Obama freeze the pay after he raise the pay!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cone256 View Post
    Not that I'm one of the highly paid federal employees I'm only a GS-07, but here's the reason why they have "doubled" and trust me I'm not a fan of Obama so please don't take it like that.

    The government is moving away from paying money out to contractors, even here in my state. So in order to make up for the work that these contractors are/were doing, they are replacing them with federal civilians. This is to have better oversight on their productivity and on the people that are hired. Now are outright cuts and pay freezes necessary, sure but how about we get rid of all the dead weight employees that are around, I certainly know a few
    Yeah, good luck with that. Federal rules/regulations make it very difficult to fire a Federal civilian employee. Unions are already squawking this is bad for the economy, they could cut mid/senior level pay by 5-10% (GS 13s and up) and people would still be making great money. The Fed scales were created to attract the best and brightest to Federal service and to keep pace with the money folks would make in the private sector. But the Fed scale has outpaced the private sector and now it needs to be brought back in line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laconian View Post
    Yeah, good luck with that. Federal rules/regulations make it very difficult to fire a Federal civilian employee. Unions are already squawking this is bad for the economy, they could cut mid/senior level pay by 5-10% (GS 13s and up) and people would still be making great money. The Fed scales were created to attract the best and brightest to Federal service and to keep pace with the money folks would make in the private sector. But the Fed scale has outpaced the private sector and now it needs to be brought back in line.

    Besides senless money spending thats been going on for the past 10 years, "dead weight" employees is one of the major factors contributing to negative budget. Ive personally seen dead weights and actually didnt get fully hired because of recent workforce cuts. I wont say where i worked but im pretty sure it applies to all civilian federal jobs: 70% of them do no work or do the very minimal, because by contract there is no quota that they have to uphold, and as long as it LOOKS like youre are working no one can accuse you of not working becuase it will be a very long, expensive and risky process of proving that an individual is not doing any work. While I and others, as temps, were doing 3 or 4 times as much work as the regulars, we still did not get permanent positions becuase of recent cuts.
    So in reality when we couldve been hired for a slightly lower rate and do 3 times the amount of work that is being done now, they (Fed workplace) were stuck with useless dead weight because of a contract and its legal reprocutions. I mean what kind of a fkn joke is that? Isnt it time to change these retarded contracts, the time couldnt have been better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beNder View Post
    Update: According to headlines, the freeze will go for two years, and is expected to save the government a total of $28 billion. Not bad.
    It's peanuts and for show.

    The real cuts are in defense.

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    Well that's a good way to gain popularity.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jobu View Post
    This is not good news.
    The number of federal employees being paid $150k+ per year has doubled since Obama took office. Now a "freeze" will lock that into place.

    We need cuts, not freezes.
    Fed Employees getting paid that amount are generally the management types, who are always looking out for each other. Expect them to not only not get cuts, but find a way around this pay freeze. The ones really getting hurt are the actual working Federal work force who keep this country running despite the idiocy from above. Unfortunately the public loves the idea of government employees getting paid less, just because they only think of Congressmen or IRS employees. So we take the hit for a few popularity points for the next election.

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    so long as its step 1.
    step 2 should be REDUCE the amount of fvckers employed by the Fed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roaming East View Post
    so long as its step 1.
    step 2 should be REDUCE the amount of fvckers employed by the Fed
    Including the military?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrinchWSLG View Post
    Fed Employees getting paid that amount are generally the management types, who are always looking out for each other. Expect them to not only not get cuts, but find a way around this pay freeze. The ones really getting hurt are the actual working Federal work force who keep this country running despite the idiocy from above. Unfortunately the public loves the idea of government employees getting paid less, just because they only think of Congressmen or IRS employees. So we take the hit for a few popularity points for the next election.
    Nah don't be mistaken, we hate you lot too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ordie View Post
    It's peanuts and for show.

    The real cuts are in defense.
    Name the cuts

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