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    Arizona's convention industry has sustained a blow. In just the first four months after the law was signed, hotels lost an estimated $45 million. The local economies lost as much as $96 million, the study said. The canceled meetings and conferences could wind up costing the state nearly 2,800 jobs, $87 million in lost wages and more than $250 million in lost economic output over the next few years.

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    And I guarantee that at some point, the money will come back, as it always does.

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    It was worth it to get the Criminals out of the State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABN MP View Post
    It was worth it to get the Criminals out of the State.
    You mean the criminals who come to Arizona and spend money at conventions of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by subotai View Post
    You mean the criminals who come to Arizona and spend money at conventions of course.
    Just being a Smart A%% to Ordies trolling. To him all Immigrants are just Undocumented Workers instead of Illegal Aliens.

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    It just happend that you have to pay for good things. Anyway, your Odie act as it would be crime to effectively get informations about who is who in your own country.

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    "According to a study by the Center for American Progress........"


    Thats would be the George Soros Funded Center for American Progress?

    Yeah I think we know its predisposed findings

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABN MP View Post
    Just being a Smart A%% to Ordies trolling. To him all Immigrants are just Undocumented Workers instead of Illegal Aliens.
    Nope. In fact I will tell you that the article Ordie is quoting is probably understating the impact to Arizona of that law. Those are the easy to get numbers. What about the impact to restaurants, stores, other services that catered to the hispanic population? What about the impact to the housing prices and occupied real estate when people who are there (and spending money) leave? Hotels and conventions are short cycle businesses where economic impact is felt quickly and is easy to report. However I will not be surprised when the longer cycle economic indicators report in and the cost of this law (or attempted law) runs into the billions.

    Arizona should think long and hard about what they are doing because when the baby boomers die off, I would not want to be in business there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linedoggie View Post
    "According to a study by the Center for American Progress........"


    Thats would be the George Soros Funded Center for American Progress?

    Yeah I think we know its predisposed findings


    Soros, who wants the real truth, when you can fabricate it? Again bringing to the forefront, the old saying, "There are Lies and then there are statistics"

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    Quote Originally Posted by subotai View Post
    Nope. In fact I will tell you that the article Ordie is quoting is probably understating the impact to Arizona of that law. Those are the easy to get numbers. What about the impact to restaurants, stores, other services that catered to the hispanic population? What about the impact to the housing prices and occupied real estate when people who are there (and spending money) leave? Hotels and conventions are short cycle businesses where economic impact is felt quickly and is easy to report. However I will not be surprised when the longer cycle economic indicators report in and the cost of this law (or attempted law) runs into the billions.

    Arizona should think long and hard about what they are doing because when the baby boomers die off, I would not want to be in business there.
    So the Hell with the Law, the hell with following the law, the hell with Legal Immigrants who worked hard to come here and be Citizens? bottom line is cash, if an illegal has some thats whats important. hell why not invite the Narcos in, they have carloads of cash

    How Enlightened

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    Quote Originally Posted by subotai View Post
    Nope. In fact I will tell you that the article Ordie is quoting is probably understating the impact to Arizona of that law. Those are the easy to get numbers. What about the impact to restaurants, stores, other services that catered to the hispanic population? What about the impact to the housing prices and occupied real estate when people who are there (and spending money) leave? Hotels and conventions are short cycle businesses where economic impact is felt quickly and is easy to report. However I will not be surprised when the longer cycle economic indicators report in and the cost of this law (or attempted law) runs into the billions.

    Arizona should think long and hard about what they are doing because when the baby boomers die off, I would not want to be in business there.
    There are two sides of the coin. And estimating real economical (note, note only accounting) cost of this law is immpossible, read "What is Seen and What is Not Seen" by Bastiat...

    anyway there also gains and revenues created directly and indirectly by this law, not mentioning that such law is (at the end) result of people will, ie econimal subjects who naturally want best combination of different goal created this to immprove their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saturnin View Post
    There are two sides of the coin. And estimating real economical (note, note only accounting) cost of this law is immpossible, read "What is Seen and What is Not Seen" by Bastiat...

    anyway there also gains and revenues created directly and indirectly by this law, not mentioning that such law is (at the end) result of people will, ie econimal subjects who naturally want best combination of different goal created this to immprove their lives.
    Correct. In truth all macro economic numbers are basically guesstimated. Since economic systems are not truly close looped it makes cause and effect or (effect and vector) a very hard thing to calculate and know for sure.

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    Arizonans don't care what everyone else thinks. They lost money over the Superbowl controversy in the 90's. Somtimes being right costs money.

    Hey, didn't liberal, people-loving San Fancisco just pass a law banning sitting on sidewalks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by subotai View Post
    Correct. In truth all macro economic numbers are basically guesstimated. Since economic systems are not truly close looped it makes cause and effect or (effect and vector) a very hard thing to calculate and know for sure.
    Then there is public perception in comparison with reality.
    The fear mongering campaign initiated by the governor tarnished Arizona public image and drove away business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minions Ownage View Post
    Not this sh1t again, Ordie...Come on dude, did you actually post this in jest after waiting on yer chops for me to be in MP to play the devil's angle with?
    Just a way to distract the craziness of the promise land (California)

    Quote Originally Posted by McFire View Post
    Arizonans don't care what everyone else thinks. They lost money over the Superbowl controversy in the 90's. Somtimes being right costs money.

    Hey, didn't liberal, people-loving San Fancisco just pass a law banning sitting on sidewalks?
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