Libya Unrest Thread

[TobleroneCZ]

I'm afraid that the reality is, if the air strikes aren't working, there will have to be boots on the ground. Now that they are committed, there's no way NATO (and it's allies) can allow this rebellion to be crushed, as it would be a humiliation to the West. More importantly, it would mean just so much empty words about 'freedom and democracy' for the others struggling against their autocratic regimes. Another costly war in, in another Muslim country.

~BG

I thought this also until I realized that with more air assets this will be an easy war to win. Why? because Libya is almost entirely sand dunes. If you look at any of the photos all the battles are taking place in the middle of the dessert. A few apaches cruising around and the Pro-gaddafi army has nowhere to hide. This is not Afghanistan with hills and trees and caves. Once we we kill everything that is out in the open the gaddafi troops will turn to hiding in buildings and urban areas. The rebels will have to deal with this on their own and possibly with coalition training.
What I'm saying is that the coalition can hold the line between cities while the rebels prepare to take the cities. Both the rebels and gaddafi army use the highways. It basically would turn into the highway of death as we saw in Kuwait when the whole Iraqi army was fleeing.

[merk666]

Like this

mine there was in water pipe(channel for rain water, etc) under the road, but not the asphalt road itself was mined.

[Kingswat]

Lol, Wolf Blizter(sp?) on CNN just said "It appears NATO can't keep up the intensive airstrikes now that the US has stopped flying, what can you tell us" while talking to some random reporter.

[one-niner]

R3uters says that foreign minister defects, that might signal breakdown in the close circle of Gaddafi.

23:30 @iyad_elbaghdadi tweets Breaking: Reports that Gaddafi’s chief of intelligence has also just defected to Tunisia.

I'm guessing either Gaddafi is about to lose/flee/die or he's brewing up something particularly vicious.

[tobigforyou]

I'm guessing either Gaddafi is about to lose/flee/die or he's brewing up something particularly vicious.

Like rats fleeing a seeking ship....

[Jµµso]

Or they don't take any risks. Gaddafis forces just throwed rebels out of many important cities... I don't think he's (or he's soldiers) ready to throw towel in the corner just yet.

[akd]

Like rats fleeing a seeking ship....

What, no smiley? Or did you really mean that....

Maybe he was simply fired and thought it might be healthy to take a vacation in Tunisia?

[merk666]

good article. so differs with all propaganda bs.
http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn....nows/?hpt=Sbin

[Tincap]

I thought this also until I realized that with more air assets this will be an easy war to win. Why? because Libya is almost entirely sand dunes. If you look at any of the photos all the battles are taking place in the middle of the dessert. A few apaches cruising around and the Pro-gaddafi army has nowhere to hide. This is not Afghanistan with hills and trees and caves. Once we we kill everything that is out in the open the gaddafi troops will turn to hiding in buildings and urban areas. The rebels will have to deal with this on their own and possibly with coalition training.
What I'm saying is that the coalition can hold the line between cities while the rebels prepare to take the cities. Both the rebels and gaddafi army use the highways. It basically would turn into the highway of death as we saw in Kuwait when the whole Iraqi army was fleeing.

Good points (kalerab too). NATO then shouldn't be dithering, regarding ground air support, for the 'rebels'. Whether one likes it or not (and I don't particularly do), we've taken sides and are now fully involved. We'd better get the job done, and done well, as quickly as possible. It wasn't our problem to begin with, but we'd better finish it properly.

~BG

[BenS1985]

good article. so differs with all propaganda bs.
http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn....nows/?hpt=Sbin

Given the fact that Yoweri Museveni is a despot as well, I have to question how biased his stance is.

Sorry, but I don't trust leaders that have been in power for 10+ years. In Mr. Museveni's case, he's been in power for almost as long as I've been alive.

[merk666]

Given the fact that Yoweri Museveni is a despot as well, I have to question how biased his stance is.

IMHO words of the Despot look balanced and wise. He says facts, and facts are facts anyway. Or he lies?
By the way, the person elected for 4-5 years, is much more inclined to cheating and populism. He simply want to be reelected, and have good support from big business.

[BenS1985]

IMHO words of the Despot look balanced and wise. He says facts, and facts are facts anyway. Or he lies?
By the way, the person elected for 4-5 years, is much more inclined to cheating and populism. He simply want to be reelected, and have good support from big business.

Yeah, so then rigging elections is so much better, because it lets Dear Leader focus on whatever he wants, right? :-\

His statements were interesting, I will give him that. However, its hard to take him seriously when his country is on the brink of killing people for homo******ity, and has other human rights violations. But if you want to live in a country that operates like that, feel free to. I will gladly take a country with a popularly elected leadership that has free and fair elections with term limits, and fewer human rights violations, thank you.

[Pitchup]

... if not the stop, he might kill the whole Libyan people. "

...this sounds like pure BS written in Nigerian Letter style.

[Pitchup]

Haha.... Odyssey Yawn is more like it.

Odyssey Down, it's more reminds Somalia.

[CatpainSlackbladder]

Wow, this Moussa Koussa guy has an 'interesting' past
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-defected.html