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    Quote Originally Posted by kalerab View Post
    That guess again, LIFG doesn´t exist since 90s when they were wrecked by Younis. He has influence but he is opportunist, not zealot. That is why he is rolling with one of the biggest opportunist in country, al-Salabi, who is now visiting Gaddafi-era officials and striking a deals with them in exchange for their support. As for the US embassy attack (bytheway bomb used there is explosive that is used for fishing) was claimed by some Omar Abdul Rahman brigade. No one ever heard about them, no one knows whether they really did it or whether they are just opportunists which wants to present themself.
    well im sure if someone arrested you and your wife , ****ed up your jihad vacation and sent you back to libya to be tortured in prision im sure you would like an opportunity 4 revenge

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    Yes and those who tortured him were underlings of Saif al-Islam with whom he was best bud since 2010 when he released him.

    PS: And the one who hunted him and destroyed his group in 90 was Abdul Fatah Younis, Belhadj de facto commander during the war (until his assassination).

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalerab View Post
    Yes and those who tortured him were underlings of Saif al-Islam with whom he was best bud since 2010 when he released him.

    PS: And the one who hunted him and destroyed his group in 90 was Abdul Fatah Younis, Belhadj de facto commander during the war (until his assassination).
    he was only friends with saif cuz saif convinced daddy gadaffi to give him clemency , and he turned on them the first chance he got ... i believe belhadj deep down is an unrepentant islamist who would like to **** over the west any chance he could ... im sure nato and amurica killed a few of his AQ friends ... this is something these people neither forgive or forget

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    Fighting in Mizdah; 19 dead.
    Heavy fighting has been taking place all day, Tuesday, around the town of Mizdah between forces from Zintan and members of the Mashasha tribe. At least 19 people are reported to have died.

    There has been growing hostility in recent months between the Zintanis who played a prominent role in last year’s revolution and the Mashasha who did not support it. Last December, there were clashes in which four people died.

    The present fight started yesterday when the Mashasha stopped a Zintan military contingent heading to Sebha at a makeshift road block near Mizdah. In the ensuing conflict, one Zintani, who has been named as Muftah Ibrahim Al-Ramah, was shot dead and two others injured. They were taken to the local government hospital in Mizdah.

    Both sides then started to gather their forces and look for allies. The Mizdah and the Al-Qantrar tribes came out in support of Zintan while Twarghans from Hun and elsewhere are said to have driven over to support the Mashasha .

    In a last-minute attempt to avert clashes, a Zintani delegation went to negotiate with Mashasha elders this morning, demanding that Ramah’s body be handed over. The Mashasha refused. It is claimed that some Mashasha then went to the hospital and killed the two injured Zintanis,. However, there is no confirmation of this.

    In the ensuing fighting in which both side used heavy weapons, it is reported that eight members of the Mashasha tribe, seven people from Zintan and two from Al-Qantrar were killed and 15 people wounded.

    Mohamed Al-Sudani from the Mizdah hospital said that three bodies had been brought in and that three injured had been taken to Gharian hospital. An administrator at the latter, Omar Akiz, was reported by ******* saying that two bodies had been brought in but that they had not been identified. “We have six injured”, he said.

    Deputy Interior Minister Omar Khadrawi has been sent by the government to Mizdah to try to organise a ceasefire.

    “There is still tension,” Khadrawi is reported as saying before leaving for Mizdah. He added that efforts were being made to contain the conflict and that investigations were underway to determine the causes of what had happened and its background.

    The clashes are said to have damaged an electricity station and as a result there are power cuts in the area. A local source also said that no supplies or help had come from the Ministry of Health. According to the Libyan news agency WAL, phone lines have also been cut and the fighting forced some families in Mizdah to leave the town.

    There have been frantic appeals by locals to the government to put an end to the fighting.
    http://www.libyaherald.com/fighting-in-mizdah-19-dead/

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    Fighting at health ministry, two wounded
    Two people were wounded in a fight at Ministry of Health offices in Tripoli on Tuesday evening.
    The fighting broke out when a group of 14 former revolutionaries from Benghazi were refused access by Zintani guards.
    The group from Benghazi, all of them injured in last year’s fighting, one of them seriously, had demanded to see Health Minister Fatima Hamroush. They said they were there to claim their rights which included the right to be sent abroad for medical treatment.
    According to a one of the Zintani guards, the group tried to force their way into the buildings. The Zintanis then fired into the air to maintain order but the Benghazi men responded by attacking them with sticks and stones.
    The Zintanis are being used to maintain security at the ministry’s offices in Tripoli’s Islamic Call buildings.
    http://www.libyaherald.com/fighting-...y-two-wounded/

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    Court strikes down law banning Gaddafi 'glorification'

    TRIPOLI (AFP) - Libya's supreme court on Thursday struck down as 'unconstitutional' a law passed at the start of May that banned glorification of slain leader Muammar Gaddafi.

    'In the name of the people, the court has decided on the unconstitutionality of Law No 37,' the head of the court's constitutional chamber announced at a brief hearing.

    A Libyan human rights group had lodged an appeal with the court against the law adopted by Libya's ruling National Transitional Council on May 2 that drew criticism from international watchdogs over freedom of expression.

    'Praising or glorifying Muammar Gaddafi, his regime, his ideas or his sons... is punishable by a prison sentence,' read the text of the law. The jail terms were unspecified but could range from three to 15 years under Libya's penal code.
    http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_810875.html

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    Default After Libya's War, Acts Of Vengeance

    I was talking with the newly elected head of the local council in Misrata, Libya, when he made a passing remark about the disturbed minds of his people.

    I wanted to know more. "Do you think," I asked the councilman, Yusuf bin Yusuf, "that so many years under such a dictator affected the minds of Libyans?"
    He answered immediately. "Gadhafi's regime has ended, but there is a small Gadhafi in everyone's brain."
    It was hard to know if bin Yusuf found any irony in the statement. His city suffered cruelly at the hands of Moammar Gadhafi's troops. Gadhafi had famously promised to hunt down protesters against his rule "street by street, house by house, alley by alley," and he almost made good on that threat when his forces besieged Misrata.
    But when his forces were driven away, it was the Misrata rebels who moved into a neighboring town accused of supporting Gadhafi, and destroyed it completely. Street by street, house by house, alley by alley.
    Months after the war, tens of thousands of people remain homeless, with an uncertain future. The refugees are overwhelmingly black, referred to by their tormentors as "slaves."
    Misrata's attacks on the people of Tawargha are so severe that the United Nations has labeled them "war crimes."

    ...

    Driving south from Misrata, the first thing you see of Tawargha is a cluster of apartment buildings. It looks like they were used for artillery practice.
    Then you arrive in the neighborhood beyond the buildings.
    We felt like we were seeing a lost civilization. There were satellite dishes, burned out shells of cars still in the parking spaces. The destruction goes as far as we could see in every direction. Schools are empty, piles of trash are in the streets, and there were no signs of other people.
    That's exactly the way officials from Misrata want their neighboring town to be.

    We visited Yusuf bin Yusuf, the head of Misrata's newly elected city council, and asked about the possibility of reconciliation.
    Reconcilation, he answered, can happen between people who fought over materialistic things. It cannot happen between people who killed families or violated honor, he says.
    He adds that he doubts Tawarghans had the rights to their land anyway. An old story says the Tawarghans came here long ago as escaped slaves.

    ...

    The city has been vacant long enough that bushes are beginning to grow in the streets. At the gate of what looks like it was an elegant house, there's a tree with red flowers, just about the only living thing left in this town because house after house has been burned out.

    On other streets, graffiti is spray-painted in Arabic: "Don't buy a slave unless you also buy a stick."
    [The people of Misrata] "are slave-masters of Tawargha."
    "Bye-bye slaves of Tawargha."
    On the road back to Misrata, we spotted another bit of graffiti in English, apparently left over from the war, when the people besieged in Misrata were seen as heroes before the world.
    That graffiti reads, "We want freedom and justice. Nothing more."

    Full story: http://www.npr.org/2012/06/12/154763...s-of-vengeance
    Listen to Story: http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPl...37&m=154828855
    Saddest bit of irony there is in that country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IraGlacialis View Post
    Saddest bit of irony there is in that country.
    I war fought in the name of human rights at least with regards to the West, except now human rights are even worse and the West does nothing.

    Because in the end, it was all about oil.

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    The Libyan government has declared a "military zone" and deployed troops in the west of the country, after days of clashes between rival militias.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-18474834

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalerab View Post
    Court strikes down law banning Gaddafi 'glorification'



    http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_810875.html

    lol this reminds me how germany banned anything with a swastica after the war

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    Many countries have such law until this day. Well, vast majority of European countries do. Holocaust lie laws exists as well. Problem with this law wasn´t that much glorification of Gaddafi, but vague statements about prohibition of any insult to "Feb17 revolution" and NTC. It is a good sign, however, that court stood up against Jalil and NTC and stroke it down.

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    Libya wants to buy Typhoons from UK, Rafale and Mirage F1 from France

    Libya’s dilapidated air force is set to be substantially enhanced under plans announced by the air force chief of staff, Saqr Geroushi.

    Geroushi disclosed that under the proposals, special consideration has been given to those countries which supported Libya during last year’s revolution, including France, the United Kingdom and the United States.

    The air force is currently putting forward proposals to purchase two squadrons of French Rafale fighter aircraft, as well as a number of French F1-Mirage jets. There are also plans to purchase Eurofighter Typhoons from the United Kingdom, as well as C-130 Hercules cargo planes and Chinook helicopters from the United States.

    The bulk of Libya’s existing air force, which is reckoned to include around 28 aircraft and nine helicopters, originated in the Soviet Union.

    Geroushi said that the plan required the distribution of the new aircraft across Libya, stipulating the intention to base the Eurofighters at Tobruk and Benina airbase in Benghazi, with the French fighters being based at Gordabaya and Wattya military airbases to cover the entire Libyan south. The military airbases at Jufrah, Sebha and Kufra will also be used, it was announced.

    The airman added that all outstanding contracts signed under the previous regime were now under review, and that some would likely be cancelled.

    Commenting on the air force’s current operations, Geroushi said that its main priority was border security, adding that his aircraft were flying regular sorties along Libya’s borders.
    http://www.libyaherald.com/libyan-ai...major-upgrade/

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    Recent tribal clashes in western Libya left 105 people dead and some 500 injured, the government has said.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-18529139

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    libya needs to rebuild their infrastructure and provide jobs for their ppl

    not buy typhoon s

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    Liberal party says it is in lead in Libya election

    TRIPOLI, Libya (AP) – A liberal alliance led by a former Libyan rebel prime minister said Sunday the party's unofficial preliminary results put it in the lead in the country's landmark parliamentary elections, the first since the ouster of dictator Moammar Gadhafi.

    Faisal Krekshi, secretary general of the Alliance of National Forces led by Mahmoud Jibril, said the results were based on reports by party representatives at ballot counting centers across the vast desert nation. He provided no details, and the head of the election commission refused to confirm Krekshi's claims.
    "We are all waiting and we have nothing to suggest that one party is ahead of others," election commission chief Nouri al-Abar told reporters. He also refused to set a date for announcing the full official results.
    Libyans turned out en masse Saturday to cast their ballots for the 200-seat parliament. Eighty seats are set aside for party lists, while the remaining 120 are for individual independent candidates.
    Officials from two other parties — the Muslim Brotherhood's Justice and Construction Party and the Islamist Al-Watan — said Jibril's alliance was the biggest winner in the race for the 80 party seats. They based their statements on their own party representatives at polling centers. They did not provide a breakdown.
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/s...ion/56093172/1

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