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    First a point I'd like to make – very important point actually. At no time has any serving member of the UK (or any other nations) Armed Forces spoken to, engaged in, or in any way assisted us on our project. It has been done exclusively by civilians who have acted within the laws of the United Kingdom at all times – this includes remaining on public land / waters for all excursions. (Please note also that the photos clearly are not the originals nor high resolution and the hi res will never become available either. Reason being that this wasn't an exercise based in malice / monetary gain in any way shape or form).


    The second point I'd like to draw to peoples attention is that for many decades it has been proven beyond all doubt that the CIA, NSA, NRO and all other agencies protect their SAP (Special Access Projects) behind a wall of obfuscation and deceit, and since the 'U-2' and A-12 (later to become SR-71) they have used the field of ufology as an effective counter intelligence firewall. The murkier the better as far as these agencies are concerned, and for us it is a validation of the fact that this area is a very valid research tool if you are selective about the materials you gather.


    It was after years (literal years) of sifting, sieving, discarding, interviewing and traveling to follow the most promising leads we got a focus target area. This was the 'Black Triangles' mystery – and what a can of worms. There is enough material in that alone to chase a potential 8 in test / operational vehicles of varying forms / uses. However the work served a purpose and funneled us downwards to the core of what we wanted to investigate. I am sure many are familiar with the topic.


    What appeared after a time was a very resounding pattern.


    Cornwall – Mysterious sonic booms shaking windows and high altitude lights heading towards Wales.


    Wales – high altitude black triangles rushing over head with a single strobing red light light on the underside. North Wales sightings were of particular clarity.


    Scotland. The cluster of sightings and audio reports from here was astounding in detail, witness integrity and sheer numbers. Reports ranged from 'Space shuttles with snubbed noses' , 'Massive 'S' shaped curves being carved in the skies', night time 'express trains' roaring through the air and the sudden rash of 'Low level Tornado flights deep in the night along side a deeper more rumbling engine sound heading East'. Girvan, Stranraer, they all started to trickle in reports. [*******#000000][FONT=Times New Roman, Times New Roman, serif][SIZE=3]Oh one snippet from a report of interest from 2008 - “If a C-17 goes low westward in the day time over Girvan wheels down, its an absolute100% caste iron guarantee of a night time rumbling roaring sound”. We are not sure why this is so urgent unless its bringing in fuel / fresh crews or other needed items for the mission but it actually did assist us some what.[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]


    Pattern became clear enough – It comes in high, very high over Cornwall, gets lower over wales and hits Scotland at altitudes low enough to be visible. We decided we should start to organize a hill walking holiday.


    Then the tragic events of 9-11 in New York and the Global War On Terror. Fast Black triangles and air quakes didn't just hit the UK any longer – they moved down the eastern coast of the UK and started to creep across Europe, into eastern Europe and aimed right at the middle east.


    Eye witnesses from the North Sea into Europe once again reported an extreme fast ' black arrow head with a single red light' and the characteristic shaking windows. Further into Europe it again became a single extreme speed pulsing red light and no noise. Climbs to altitude and races off is our boys signature and we knew it had in all probability gone from test article / dust off research craft to fully pressed into use – but we had no concrete sightings in the ME or Afghanistan.


    Then pay dirt dropped into our laps.




    First the grape vine started to rumble with rumors of a very unusual airframe making sporadic stops in Afghanistan.


    What ever this was it came in with zero engine noise onto a blacked out runway – just a rush of air and thumping heavy landing. On take off it sounded like a 'B-1b with an attitude problem' – again though when it lifted off it was on an all blacked out runway.


    Then a Civilian in Afghanistan was taking photos of the stars in long exposure, and there it was – the single fading in and out red light crossing the skies. Taking the exposure length we knew it then.


    If it was a test article, it was now operational and we knew for certain why the black triangle low level sightings had it as silent; it is, but only when landing approach is being made.


    With both Afghanistan and Iraq wars in full swing, it was no longer a case of one off rare sightings / audio reports. So with our eclectic mix of fishermen, sailing enthusiasts and astronomers we sat and planned a few away days. Birdwatchers were welcome as they knew some really arcane spots to set up house for a few hours.


    The key locations thus getting a good smattering of eyes on, we suddenly found another (albeit unwitting) helper. The Royal Air Force started flying interference. They provided the final clue we needed.


    From early 2009, If a Tonka smashed westwards between 01:30 to 05:00 hrs it was a thirty minute heads up to a sighting in Girvan and surrounding locations. It would also dash back to the East coast at low level creating one hell of a noise. We just had to be there when it happened.


    Air quake in Cornwall? Call up the line to Wales. They see lights heading North? Well you get the idea. Tonka outbound too? Thank. You. Very. Much.





    Hope you like the montage. Yes the engines are mounted above the wings, yes the hull is a flattened shallow 'V', and it indeed has a single tail not a pair unlike the SR-71. (The pictures are free to share / use but please remember they are low res for a very valid reason – the underside thermal protection system and hull shape is unique and we agreed that for the time being is should stay under wraps. We were not looking to damage any assets, just to find them).


    The picture on the top left shows the shovel nose to perfection and the top right is one of the rarer out at sea 'Space shuttle like' 's' curves and airframe re-entry like flight profile. These really were baffling and the last reported sighting was yesterday evening (28th Feb. 2011).#1


    Is it loud? Ungodly bastards yes it is. Is it fast? Jaw dropping acceleration into the night sky. Does it land in silence? Yes it does.


    I saved the best till last.


    It might have two of the biggest loudest jet engines I have ever heard that fling it skywards, but theres a third engine on board – the ear splitting roar? Its a rocket engine. Yes you read that right – the airframe climbs into the dark sky and away, then a sudden 'pop – rolling boom followed by a deep bass rumbling' and the bright exhaust signature Sprints into the night.


    If you do hunt it, take a stop watch. The numbers are beautiful.








    Thats all folks – a twin seat manned high speed aircraft getting lots of use – airframe numbers are low, 6 at the very most from sighting frequency / locations but they getting lots of air time. If you think all this is pie in the skies? Well heres a little snippet to digest from a long time ago when the mighty Black bird was still airborne.






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    Some years later, I was talking with a fellow test pilot named Rogers Smith, who at the time was flying the SR-71 at NASA Dryden. He related a story about flying from Edwards to White Sands and back. He asked his back seater, flight test engineer Marta Bohn-Meyer, to see what the controllers at White Sands were showing as their ground speed and altitude. The controller replied that they were at 3500 feet per second and 129,000 feet. Both Rogers and Marta knew that wasn’t correct. When asked again, the rather flustered controller replied, 2450 feet per second and 81,500 feet. They both knew that there was another flight above them, using their flight as a cover for a classified program.
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    [*******#000000][FONT=Times New Roman, Times New Roman, serif][SIZE=3]These aero braking maneuvers threw us at first until we looked at the data again. On rare occasions during the day time they approach from the North Atlantic seaboard and it starts at 80+ miles out – fishermen after all too busy to watch the skies right? they simply sneak in. Risky I know, but who is listening out for a gliding airframe?[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]
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    I Love you man

    [*******lemonchiffon]Not litteraly but you get the idea [/COLOR]

    [*******black]Is it anything to do with [/COLOR][FONT=Arial][*******black]RAF Machrihanish at all ? thats one funky looking base[/COLOR][/FONT]

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    Mac and another close by base. Don't think Macs the only place in western Scotland to hold deep black secrets.

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    Nice read, 2495.

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    Yeah i know

    I remember reading storys / sightings on the web a few years back but for the life of i cannot remember the link

    It does make you think thaugh !!

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    Very, very interesting sir!

    Something superquiet and superfast, hmm who would do such thing?

    Lab coat types in the US and UK having a little fun.

    I'm wondering if there is any way to get a rough estimate on size?

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    Interesting post! Let's hope you don't get a knock on the door from Men in Black!

    Do you think it is the same aircraft over the whole period, or an evolution of that aircraft? I would have thought that obsolescence creeps in rather quickly with these sorts of hush-hush machines.

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    @ 2495

    So is it still doing the west coast inbound so to speak ?

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    Rocketengine might be an Aerospike. Have you considered this possibility. If so it could possibly be exo-atmospheric, as that generally was what aerospike research was focussed on. Though a low rumbling sound and the speeds you say these things haul at, it could also be a type of high frequency pulsejet.
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    its still very much in use, still using scotland ad a stop over. Is it an updated version / variant? Yes. I say yes because pre 1995 sightings don't have the very distinct thermal protective shell mentioned.

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    RS - i cannot get close enough for certain but the brightness, roaring deep rumbling sensation felt like a rocket launch starting up. However thats purely my speculation and feelings. What it really is? Idk.

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    although the third engines got no intake just an exhaust.

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    The problem is, why do they keep it secret.
    A stealthy hypersonic aircraft wouldn't be such an earth-shattering revelation, it is not like aliens or something.

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    im sure they will decide to show us when they see fit. However it is the potential materials, engines and mission they want hidden. As for it being vlo? Doubt it highly indeed unless they really have the nanomaterial breakthrough of the decade hidden some where.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2495 View Post
    im sure they will decide to show us when they see fit. However it is the potential materials, engines and mission they want hidden. As for it being vlo? Doubt it highly indeed unless they really have the nanomaterial breakthrough of the decade hidden some where.
    Also, what about the Russians?
    Or the Chinese?
    At least the Russians definitely have the technology to detect this, especially if it isn't VLO.
    The huge russian phased array antimissile radars surely can detect something with this flight envelope.

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