Reply With QuoteThere's another explantion, it's called the african shuffle.Originally Posted by AlexMartin2
Ever seen other rebel forces behaving different in afrika?
Its all shoot 'm up like there's no shortage of ammo what so ever....
What is really happening behind the scenes, we will only find out once it actually happens. However, the highest military leader (sorry don't recall his name) siding with the rebells in Benghazi has made a statement when being asked why the military is not actively engaging and helping the rebells, while the rebells fighting with Ak's are getting shot up on the fast flat desert plains by the well trained Gaddafi Forces fighting with MLRS ,Tanks, Air support and other heavy crew served weapons. He said, that they have asked the rebells to hold their positions and not advance further towards Tripoli, as it is still a time for negotiation. The Rebells did not listen and advanced further. They want Gaddafi still to stand down and resolve the matter with as little blood spilled as possible. He said quite clear in saying for the moment we will not have "Lybian soldiers shooting other Lybian soldiers".
There's another explantion, it's called the african shuffle.
Ever seen other rebel forces behaving different in afrika?
Its all shoot 'm up like there's no shortage of ammo what so ever....
Which is funny, be course the side who first runs out of ammo has lost the battle and withdraws.
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Seif al-Islam Kadhafi, son of Libyan strongman Moamer Kadhafi, flashes the V sign during a meeting with youths on March 10, 2011 in Tripoli, after he issued a warning of 'we're coming' and that his forces were advancing towards their bastion of Benghazi in eastern Libya.
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An armed Libyan rebel chant anti- Gadhafi slogans during a demonstration for students of the faculty of medicine of the University of Qar Younis, in Benghazi, Libya Sunday, March 13, 2011. Hundreds of students took the streets protesting what they called "The Libyan leader's war crimes" demanding the international community to impose a no fly zone over Libya.
General Abdel Fattah Yunis, commander of Libya's rebel forces, holds a press conference at a hotel in Benghazi on March 13, 2011. Yunis, who resigned as interior minister soon after rebels rose up against Moamer Kadhafi in mid-February, vowed to defend the next town of Ajdabiya
An old flag of the Kingdom of Libya hanged by opposition supporters on an abandonned Libyan navy gunship anchored in Benghazi military harbor is pictured on March 13, 2011.
Libyan navy gunships sit in Benghazi's military harbour on March 12, 2011. The Libyan regime has 'lost legitimacy' through its massive suppression of the uprising against Moamer Kadhafi, the Arab League said in a resolution adopted at crisis talks in Cairo.
Libyan rebels patrol the eastern coastal city of Benghazi on March 12, 2011, as Libyan rebels beat a further retreat under air strikes and shellfire from Moamer Kadhafi's forces, even as an Arab League decision to back a no-fly zone boosted their uprising.
Libyan protesters pray on an abandonned Libyan army vehicle in Benghazi on March 11, 2011 as thousands of Libyans poured onto the streets demanding Moamer Kadhafi quit and praying for victory in a bloody uprising inspired by revolutions in Egypt and Tunisia.
A Koni class frigate of the Libyan navy, crewed by anti-Gadhafi rebels, sails past the waterfront of Benghazi eastern Libya, Friday March 11, 2011. French President Nicolas Sarkozy faced increasing pressure from fellow leaders Friday who complained he was out of line to suddenly give a Libyan opposition group diplomatic recognition. Rebels held out Friday in part of a strategic oil port after fierce fighting with Moammar Gadhafi loyalists waging a heavy counteroffensive trying to push the opposition further east away from the capital.
In this photo taken during a government-organised visit for foreign media, pro-Gadhafi supporters arrive by bus to make a rally in front of the media, in the main square of Zawiya, 30 miles (50 kilometers) west of Tripoli, in Libya Friday, March 11, 2011. Libyan Leader Moammar Gadhafi's regime has gained momentum with the capture of Zawiya after days of fierce fighting with rebels, in a key test of the government's ability to maintain its hold on the Libyan capital and surrounding areas.
In this photo taken during a government-organised visit for foreign media, pro-Gadhafi soldiers celebrate as a bus carrying media passes by, in front of a wall on which anti-Gadhafi graffiti has been painted over, near the main square of Zawiya, 30 miles (50 kilometers) west of Tripoli, in Libya Friday, March 11, 2011. Libyan Leader Moammar Gadhafi's regime has gained momentum with the capture of Zawiya after days of fierce fighting with rebels, in a key test of the government's ability to maintain its hold on the Libyan capital and surrounding areas.
Members of Lybian leader Moamer Kadhafi's loyalist forces celebrate after entering the Libyan Tunisian border town of Zawiya, 40kmswest of Tripoli, on March 11, 2011 following a two week long battle with Libyan rebel fighters.
Libyan rebel fighters try to defend a gate of the north-central key Libyan oil town of Ras Lanuf as Moamer Kadhafi's loyalist forces approach their positions on March 10, 2011, where at least four people were killed and 35 wounded as rebels retreated under continous government rocket and sniper fire.
Shrapnels fly through the air as a tank shell explodes near Libyan rebel fighters defending their last position against Moamer Kadhafi's loyalist forces at the north-central key Libyan oil town of Ras Lanuf on March 10, 2011.
Libyan rebel fighters run for cover as tanks of Kadhafi loyalist forces approach at a gate of the north-central key Libyan oil town of Ras Lanuf on March 10, 2011 where at least four people were killed and 35 wounded today as rebels retreated under continous government rocket and sniper fire.
Libyan rebels load a Katyusha rocket launcher while battling government forces as smoke from a damaged oil facility darkens the sky on March 11, 2011 in Ras Lanuf, Libya. Government troops loyal to Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi drove opposition forces out of the strategic oil town, forcing a frantic rebel retreat through the desert.
A Libyan rebel tank advances across the battlefield towards government troops on March 11, 2011 in Ras Lanuf, Libya. Forces loyal to Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi drove opposition forces out of the strategic oil town, forcing a frantic rebel retreat through the desert.
Libyan rebel tanks advance across the battlefijpgeld towards government troops on March 11, 2011 in Ras Lanuf, Libya. Forces loyal to Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi drove opposition forces out of the strategic oil town, forcing a frantic rebel retreat through the desert.
Libyan rebel fighters run for cover as a bomb dropped by a Kadhafi loyalist Airforce fighter jet explodes on March 11, 2011 some 10 kilometers east of the key oil port of Ras Lanuf. Libyan rebels appealed for arms today as they sent fighters into battle against Moamer Kadhafi's advancing forces, as France and Britain urged targeted strikes in the oil-rich country.
Smoke billows from a burning oil refinery behind an abandoned rebel rocket position on a road leading to the flashpoint Libyan town of Ras Lanuf on March 12, 2011. Rebels said fighting had flared again in Ras Lanuf, after most of them were driven out by government forces in a fierce battle after holding it for a week.
Libyan rebels man an anti-aircraft machine gun on March 13, 2011 at the last rebel-held checkpoint of Brega, before heavy shelling from forces loyal to strongman Moamer Kadhafi pulled dozens of them out of the eastern town.
A Libyan rebel fighter stands by a machine gun at a check point in Brega on March 12, 2011. Rebels beat a further retreat on Saturday under air strikes and shellfire from Moamer Kadhafi's forces, even as an Arab League decision to back a no-fly zone boosted their uprising.
Strange thing
Am I the only one who did not see the actual enemy that rebel forces are firing at on these photos? Rebels firing at planes with machine guns and PZRK, but not a single image of the plane (or helicopter, or dragon, flying saucer, or whatsoever)? Rebels fighting the loyalist tanks, but no single image of these tanks (the only tank seen is rebels').
What is going on? Ghadaffi forces use some kind of cloaking device or it's just a stupid theater for the press?
Why Loyalist tanks engage rebel tanks directly, The Loyalist trying to destroy many as many equipment via arty and Air-attacks..A Loyalist T-72..
Before they launch major counter attack.
Can anyone see the loyalists tanks somewhere in these photos?!! According to the caption the rebels are fighting them. I see just rebels firing somewhere. This is what I am wondering about. Why there is not a single image of the enemy?
Kunal Biswas, I'm talking about the "fighting" scenes.
The enemy also has snipers and machine gunners. They are looking for targets. Any photographer who sticks his head out to shoot the enemy with a camera has a death wish. It is suicide.
If u look at pics the photos are taken by Journalist behind Front line, The Journalist seems within the protective zone held by Rebels....
Also in the Pics all we can see Shells and and Bomb are exploding, Regarding Jets i presume erlier Low level attack was not sucessful due to Manpads and AAA, therefore they are running high level bombings where AAA & MANPADs cannot reach also 14.5mm AAA are good against Helos but not very good against fast jets..
Here`s a clear picture of a Jet making a pass.. 34sec..
Regarding Tanks, I presume they are simply advancing not engaging anyone..
I don't think it is a suicide to just turn left and take a picture of the target of the machine gun. It is that simple. I also don't think that a professional reporter will miss the chance to take such a picture. There is no single picture of the targets that rebels are firing.
The jets are consistently not hitting anything other than dirt close beside massive sprawling targets because the pilots don't want to hit the crowds, or have been ordered not to. Consistency and unmissable targets show this clearly.
Those Bombs are probably 500kg or more, The dust raise by them is not less than 100m high and 25m wide or more, Making out equipment and bodies is out of question..
For confirmed combat footage you'll have to search for mobile phone footage taken by rebels themselves under fire. These freelancer media photos seem more like bad theater - excluding the obvious air strike photos of course.
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