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    Quote Originally Posted by dmar111 View Post
    not gonna happen, no one can force a woman to wear hijab in libya...
    (*******) - Libya's National Transitional Council leader Mustafa Abdel Jalil kneeled in prayer after taking the stand in a celebration of liberation on Sunday after 42 years of one-man rule by Muammar Gaddafi and promised to uphold Islamic law. "We as a Muslim nation have taken Islamic sharia as the source of legislation, therefore any law that contradicts the principles of Islam is legally nullified," he said.

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    "Tank shell heads are seen in a Libyan State Industrial Complex found by rebels in the Crimea district, south of Tripoli, Libya, Sunday, Sept. 4, 2011. (AP Francois Mori)"


    Several weeks ago, someone asked about these artillery rounds and their origin (posting was lost in the crash of mp.net).

    I found out that they are from the italian ammo company Simmel ( http://www.simmeldifesa.com/ ) and were optimised for the Palmaria howitzer.

    "A wide variety of munitions includes specially developed Simmel ammunition with a range of 24.7 km and rocket-assisted projectiles with a range of 30 km."

    from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmaria_(artillery)

    W/SUPPL.CHG = with supplementary charge (for extended range) ?

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    I found out that they are from the italian ammo company Simmel ( http://www.simmeldifesa.com/ ) and were optimised for the Palmaria howitzer.
    Did the rebels use any captured Palmarias? During the aftermath of second battle of Benghazi rebels loaded captured Palmarias on lorries.

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    i guess nato didn't notice this one, a sam battery captured by the rebels in benghazi 20/3/2011


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    Why bomb our friends SAMs?

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    Maybe cause they are not your friends? But the persons violating UN resolutions ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norsu View Post
    Did the rebels use any captured Palmarias? During the aftermath of second battle of Benghazi rebels loaded captured Palmarias on lorries.
    Nope. Although I heared that few were used in Brega I never found any proof of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by exluppis View Post
    (*******) - Libya's National Transitional Council leader Mustafa Abdel Jalil kneeled in prayer after taking the stand in a celebration of liberation on Sunday after 42 years of one-man rule by Muammar Gaddafi and promised to uphold Islamic law. "We as a Muslim nation have taken Islamic sharia as the source of legislation, therefore any law that contradicts the principles of Islam is legally nullified," he said.

    So? Jordanese constitution is based on sharia as well, same goes for Morocco or so-caled secular Syria. Not even mentioning that current laws were based on Shariah law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exluppis View Post
    Maybe cause they are not your friends? But the persons violating UN resolutions ...
    i ws being sarcastic. it didnt show.

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    Revolutionary fighters stand near the bodies of Qaddafi loyalists killed in Sirte, Libya during the city's fall, Saturday, Oct. 22, 2011.
    53 bodies found in Sirte; Loyalists executed?

    TRIPOLI, Libya - The New York-based Human Rights Watch warned Monday of a "trend of killings, looting and other abuses" by those who fought Muammar Qaddafi, after finding 53 decomposing bodies - apparently of Qaddafi loyalists - some of whom it said may have been executed by revolutionary forces.


    The bodies were found on the lawn of the abandoned Mahari hotel in Sirte, and some had their hands bound. HRW researcher Peter Bouckaert said the hotel had come under the control of fighters from Misrata before the killings took place.


    The condition of the bodies suggested the men were killed between Oct. 15-19, the group said. Bloodstains on the grass and spent cartridges indicated some were shot and killed at the spot they were discovered.
    And so it begins http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...ted/?tag=stack

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    Libya's National Transitional Council leader Mustafa Abdel Jalil: "We as a Muslim nation have taken Islamic sharia as the source of legislation, therefore any law that contradicts the principles of Islam is legally nullified,"
    Later, people will wonder "where did it take the wrong turn?"
    well: right away...

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    A good look at the destroyed palmarias outside benghazi


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    A good look at the destroyed palmarias outside benghazi


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    Quote Originally Posted by exluppis View Post
    Here's what you get with the masses of rather stupid idiots. When one gets a fool to be with you, you can not lose.

    A freedom-fighters, with complements of NATO and this rape of a UN resolution at the expense of a tax payer of the NATO countries will not bring anything good for Libya or for us either .

    Only psychotic voyeurs and persons with slightly deranged brain can be enjoyed by these recordings.

    Capture of Gaddafi and his execution was brutal. And when a "democracy" begin with a murder, there is never a good start.

    But at least we are quite clear now that the story about killing Bin Laden, was a total invention ...
    Well if Osama wasn't dead, why didn't he expose himself to the world to embarrass US and kills Obama's presidential career for good. Why didn't the Al Qaeda and the Talibans denied his death?

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    LARAF loss/claims to date 21-Mar, 2011 - currently count closed - [ACIG]:

    • 17 February, An-26, captured by protesters in Kufra, after bringing 2000 rifles and US18 Million there.
    • 20 February, Mi-8 or Mi-24, reported as shot down during the uprising in el-Beyda.
    • 20 February, Mi-24 "853", destroyed on the ground at Benina AB.
    • 20 February, Mi-24 "854", captured at Benina AB.
    • 20 February, Mi-24, captured at Benina AB.
    • 20 February, Mi-14 "1406", captured at Benina AB.
    • 21 MiG-23BNs, 10 MiG-23MFs, and at least four G-2/J-21s, as well as several helicopters have been captured by the rebels at Benina, al-Abrak and Misurata ABs; most in inoperable condition.
    • 21 February, unk. transport aircraft, claimed as shot down by ground fire while attempting to land at Gamal Abdel Nasser AB, south of Tobruq.
    • 21 February, unk. helicopter, claimed as shot down by demonstrators.
    • 21 February, unk. helicopter, claimed as shot down by demonstrators.
    • 21 February, Mirage F.1ED "502", flown to Malta by defecting pilot.
    • 21 February, Mirage F.1ED "508", flown to Malta by defecting pilot.
    • 23 February, A.109, claimed as shot down by local protesters.
    • 23 February, Su-22UM-3K, crashed after pilot activated ejection of the crew (WSO arrested for resisting defection; pilot evacuated to Egypt).
    • 23 February, Su-22M-3K, crashed after pilot activated ejection (pilot evacuated to Egypt with severe burns and several broken limbs).
    • 23 February, SF.260 "5A-DME", crushed by T-55 MBT during the fighting for Misurata AB.
    • 27 February, Mi-8 or Mi-24, reportedly shot down by Manpads during attack on local radio station; crew of five captured.
    • 2 March, Mirage F.1ED, claimed as shot down during fighting for Mersa el-Brega airport, (possibly only damaged, but this report by the Toronto Star indicates it was indeed shot down, and that the wingman made at least one turn around that area, looking for what was going on).
    • 3 March, unknown fighter jet, claimed shot down during the fighting in Misurata.
    • 3 March, Mirage F.1ED, claimed as shot down during fighting in Mersa el-Brega, (Most likely a re-report of the same plane claimed on 2 March).
    • 4 March, Mi-8MT "2119/Air Ambulance", captured in abandoned condition at Ras Lanoof airfield.
    • 5 March, unk. helicopter, claimed shot down during fighting in Ras Lanoof.
    • 5 March, Mi-8 or Mi-24, shot down by ZPU-4 during fighting in Ras Lanoof.
    • 5 March, Su-24MK "38", shot down by ZPU-4 during fighting west of Ras Lanoof, crew KIA, one was Syrian (claims about the Mirage with serial "538" supposedly shot down on the same day are definitely wrong, and based on pieces of wreckage from the Su-24MK "38").
    • 6 March, Mi-24, claimed shot down by ZPU-4 during fighting in Bin Jawad area, crew KIA, one of pilots was Syrian.
    • 6 March, Su-22, claimed shot down by ZPU-4s during attacks in Ras Lanoof area, pilot KIA; variously said to have been Sudanese or Syrian.
    • 6 March, Su-22, claimed shot down by ZPU-4s during attacks in Ras Lanoof area, SyrianBenghazi ever since).
    • 7 March, unknown fighter jet, claimed shot down by ZPU-4s during attacks near Ras Lanoof.
    • 13 March, MiG-21bis, flown to Benina AB by defecting pilot (Col. Ali Atiyya), this same MiG-21 now flying for FLAF was lost while scrambling from Benina AB, on 17 March fate of the pilot unknown.
    • 14 March, MiG-23ML, flown to Benina AB by defecting pilot. This MiG-23ML was lost after scrambling from Benina AB, on 19 March, during possible air combat with LARAF MiG-23s)
    • 14 March, unknown fighter aircraft, reportedly flown to Benina AB by defecting pilot.
    • 17 March, Su-22M-3K, shot down over Benina AB, pilot ejected safely and captured; said to be Algerian, (if true then without official sanction by Algeria, so true mercenary. Algerian AF has no pilots qualified on Su-22s, and denies having any pilots flying for LARAF).
    • 17 March, unknown fighter aircraft (possible MiG-23), claimed shot down near Solluch, 50km south of Benghazi, fate of pilot unknown.
    • 17 March, unknown fighter aircraft, claimed shot down over Benghazi around 07:30 local, but apparently came down south of the city.
    • 19 March, unknown fighter aircraft, claimed shot down near Agedabia.
    • 19 March, around 13:30hrs, unknown fighter aircraft, claimed shot down near Fawayhat (suburb of Benghazi).

    source: http://theboresight.blogspot.com/201...ssey-dawn.html

    If anyone knows more about those shot down fitters, I only remember those that were bombed were sitting ducks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vesthepes View Post
    [*]21 February, unk. helicopter, claimed as shot down by demonstrators.
    [*]21 February, unk. helicopter, claimed as shot down by demonstrators.
    A man carrying an SA-7 on his shoulder isn't a demonstrator. I don't care how many times Anderson Cooper or some blogger
    repeats it.

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