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    Quote Originally Posted by themacedonian View Post
    What is your point? They do not matter any more? True christians do not account much in Egypt only 10% they do not count much in Kosovo now less than 5% don't count much in Iraq as well as they all had to run to Syria from a democratic Iraq. I guess they only orthodox.

    What was the pecentage of Jews in Poland prior to WWII?

    Islamic fundamentalism has to be stopped now in Syria. We have seen what happened in Libya.
    They have never experienced war and think it's a game. Even if here is someone surviving veterans they never know what is civil war when the neighbor turns into an animal who tortured, raped and killed. Thats is not game, that is hell.
    It is better to pray it never does not feel and not to write nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MUSHROOM123 View Post
    There is not a possibily that the US will intervene?
    It's an election year so no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post

    So what is the solution?
    To enforce upon the Syrians a dictator to reeducate them for two more generations?

    The solution is to immediately cease violence, and to move to amend the Constitution and parliamentary elections. This Asad accepted.

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    What the Middle East needs is a rebirth of the Ottoman Empire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svetovid View Post
    The solution is to immediately cease violence, and to move to amend the Constitution and parliamentary elections. This Asad accepted.
    And who can apply this solution?
    Try to convince the Syrians to endorse Assad's constitution. For them it is too late, too little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laworkerbee View Post
    What the Middle East needs is a rebirth of the Ottoman Empire.
    This fits the neo Ottomans ambitions of Erdogan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    This fits the neo Ottomans ambitions of Erdogan.
    Erdogan's problem is he is looking in the wrong direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laworkerbee View Post
    Erdogan's problem is he is looking in the wrong direction.
    You mean at Greece/Cyprus/Israel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svetovid View Post
    They have never experienced war and think it's a game.
    You are new to the forum and you know nothing about the background of the people you are discussing with.

    Even if here is someone surviving veterans they never know what is civil war when the neighbor turns into an animal who tortured, raped and killed. Thats is not game, that is hell.
    It is better to pray it never does not feel and not to write nonsense.
    Tortures, rapes, killes… It's already what happens in Syria, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    You mean at Greece/Cyprus/Israel?
    Indeed. This makes me think of him more as a Turk than an Ottoman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laworkerbee View Post
    What the Middle East needs is a rebirth of the Ottoman Empire.
    Or a Sunni Caliphate under Saud .....not........ It needs grass root democracy resistant to foreign influence i.e. Arab Democratic Republics.

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    What the Arab world/Middle East needs is a 100 Years War. Seems like they're on good trajectory to achieve that.

    I am not saying I want that but Europeans had their 100 Years War which brought certain interesting developments like understanding that religion is not the be all and end all of political life and organization. Maybe there is something in the human mind that makes such realizations possible only after prolonged agony. Not saying I wish that just trying to read the future best I can and that conclusion seems to be most reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laworkerbee View Post
    What the Middle East needs is a rebirth of the Ottoman Empire.
    What the world needs, is definitely not some Middle East Super Power, with no tradition of democracy.

    From what I understand "democracy" is still considered a "western word". It's not like they think it's a bad idea, but it's a western idea, so therefor there's some resistance to adopting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post


    The point was in answer to this:


    The minorities should be protected, but it is not a valid reason to oppress the majority.

    So what is the solution?
    To enforce upon the Syrians a dictator to reeducate them for two more generations?

    My appologies. They might have to become federation like Bosnia in cantons with a president for each group alawite, sunni and kurdish.
    After Tito died they did not know what to do so they had a presidium of 6 people one from each republic taking turn.
    Last edited by themacedonian; 02-25-2012 at 03:56 AM.

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    'US to announce aerial blockade on Syria'

    US readies for possibility of intervention without UN resolution, Asharq Al-Awsat reports, citing US military official; plan to include humanitarian aid to Syrian refugees on Turkey's border

    The Pentagon is readying for the possibility of intervention in Syria, aiming to halt Syrian President Bashsar Assad's violent crackdown on protesters, the newspaper Asharq Al-Awsat reported Saturday, citing a US military offical.

    According to the official, the intervention scenario calls for the establishment of a buffer zone on the Turkish border, in order to receive Syrian refugees. The Red Cross would then provide the civilians humanitarian aid, before NATO crews would arrive from Turkey and join the efforts.

    The measure would pave the way for the US to declare an aerial blockade on Syria.



    The intercession is to be modeled after NATO's efforts in Kosovo, which brought an end to the Serbian control of the region. NATO's plan of action included prolonged aerial shelling.

    The US' diplomatic efforts have yet to yield an effective international resolution that would stop the bloodshed. More than 100 protesters have died over the weekend alone, human rights activists said.
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...194506,00.html

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