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    Quote Originally Posted by Laworkerbee View Post
    I looks like more than that. It looks like the government of the United States is supporting an Islamist terror organization in Syria, who acts in the same manner as AQI. Setting off bombs at rush hour - Fucking pigs!
    So why arent the US people taken to the streets in protest of Obama throwing his weight around? Millions of ppl hit the streets when a Republican does it....

    Obama got a pass on Lybia as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry's Fork View Post
    So why arent the US people taken to the streets in protest of Obama throwing his weight around? Millions of ppl hit the streets when a Republican does it....

    Obama got a pass on Lybia as well.
    In my eyes, the blame for that, goes entirely to the media and the way they have been portraying these terrorists
    The terminology the scumbags are using, to be blunt, is beginning to fvcking piss me off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry's Fork View Post
    So why arent the US people taken to the streets in protest of Obama throwing his weight around? Millions of ppl hit the streets when a Republican does it....

    Obama got a pass on Lybia as well.
    For one the national press pays it no attention and when it does it plays word games with terminology by referring to gunmen as protestors, and secondly American's just don't care. Not until our chickens come home to roost at least.

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    So basically what we all already knew for a long time. The Media is very left biased. And the majority of Americans are stupid or dont care until it hits them physically or in the wallet.........

    Same here, just seeing what yall thought.

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    Bottom line even if Syria is not democratic it does not have to be destroyed and its supporters legitimate targets.

    At the moment the west does support more carnage so pressure is increased on Assad.

    It has been said by US government over and over that ceasefire is not holding due to the Syrian government violations. At the same time in the same period more syrian troops have died than during non ceasefire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laworkerbee View Post
    I looks like more than that. It looks like the government of the United States is supporting an Islamist terror organization in Syria, who acts in the same manner as AQI. Setting off bombs at rush hour - Fucking pigs!
    I think we've all been aware of AQ and associates trying to join the fight since the beginning Law, even the most wildly optimist democraticist among people, so try to tone down the faux outrage

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    MOSCOW: Russia condemned twin suicide bombings in Syria on Thursday, accusing unspecified foreign countries of encouraging such violence and saying Moscow would not yield to pressure to change its stance on a resolution to the conflict.
    In a meeting with the Syrian ambassador to Moscow, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov "decisively condemned the terrorist acts that have taken place in Syria in recent days", the ministry said in a statement.
    Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov went further, saying foreign states shared the blame, Russian news agencies reported.
    Two suicide car bombers killed 55 people and wounded 372 in Damascus on Thursday, Syrian state media said - the deadliest attacks in the capital since an uprising against President Bashar al-Assad began 14 months ago.
    "Some of our foreign partners are doing practical things so that the situation in Syria explodes in literal and figurative sense. I mean those explosions," state-run RIA quoted Lavrov as saying in response to a question about the bombings at a press conference in Beijing.
    He did not specify any countries, referring only to nations involved in trying to secure a fragile ceasefire that has failed to halt bloodshed pitting Assad's security forces against peaceful protesters and various groups of armed insurgents.
    The comments were in line with previous Russian complaints that Western nations had failed to properly evaluate the threat posed by Syrian rebels and to exert pressure on them to lay down their arms. Western leaders say Assad's military has been primarily responsible for the bloodshed.
    "Leaders of the international community have influence over them (armed groups). They should use this influence for good, not evil," Lavrov was quoted by RIA and Interfax as saying.
    Moscow has said foreign interference is unacceptable and called for political dialogue between the Syrian government and its opponents without preconditions, such as Assad's exit from power.
    "There are some people who want to exert pressure on us to reverse our stance, but we will not yield to this pressure," Lavrov said, speaking during at a press conference after meeting Chinese counterpart Yang Jiechi on a visit to Beijing.
    http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Mid...eign-hand.ashx

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    Arab World: Assad’s Russian lifeline

    By JONATHAN SPYER
    05/10/2012 22:58

    As West remains on sidelines in Syria, Moscow continues to arm Assad regime, underwrite its survival.


    http://www.jpost.com/Features/FrontL...aspx?id=269518

    A short and accurate analysis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IconOfEvi View Post
    I think we've all been aware of AQ and associates trying to join the fight since the beginning Law, even the most wildly optimist democraticist among people, so try to tone down the faux outrage
    Right, why should I be outraged? I mean it's only Arabs being snuffed out right? You might want to tuck that in, your double standards are showing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    Arab World: Assad’s Russian lifeline

    By JONATHAN SPYER
    05/10/2012 22:58

    As West remains on sidelines in Syria, Moscow continues to arm Assad regime, underwrite its survival.


    http://www.jpost.com/Features/FrontL...aspx?id=269518

    A short and accurate analysis.
    What can possibly be these monthly sales Russia is making in Syria and that we see used? Artillery rounds? Rockets? Tanks? BMPs?
    What is keeping Assad in power is the manpower and the overall apathy of the Syrian street.

    The people like in all autocratic regimes does not bet fully before knowing it is over. Here it is not and that because not every one is a assured by the Syrian folk who pretend to be the Opposition.

    So accurate? Hardly. Given the state of the Syrian economy and the fact it has to leach Lebanon through the guest workers program, arms sales are likely to remain Russian (matter of pricing). And as for the rest, this is not by any stretch some mythical popular revolt (just like Libya was not).

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoTeMoRe View Post
    What can possibly be these monthly sales Russia is making in Syria and that we see used? Artillery rounds? Rockets? Tanks? BMPs?
    What is keeping Assad in power is the manpower and the overall apathy of the Syrian street.

    The people like in all autocratic regimes does not bet fully before knowing it is over. Here it is not and that because not every one is a assured by the Syrian folk who pretend to be the Opposition.

    So accurate? Hardly. Given the state of the Syrian economy and the fact it has to leach Lebanon through the guest workers program, arms sales are likely to remain Russian (matter of pricing). And as for the rest, this is not by any stretch some mythical popular revolt (just like Libya was not).
    Of course it isn't popular. All the civilian protestors and the army defectors are just AQ members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IconOfEvi View Post
    I think we've all been aware of AQ and associates trying to join the fight since the beginning Law, even the most wildly opportunist democraticist among people, so try to tone down the faux outrage
    fixed it for ya

    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    Of course it isn't popular. All the civilian protestors and the army defectors just have their entire salaries and all expenses paid by Saudi Arabia.
    fixed it for ya

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    Not at all. The author completely ignores a simple thing - Moscow, Beijing or Teheran could do absolutely nothing in case if Assad is not supported by a majority as the most suitable leader in the situation. He hugely and on purpose exagerrates Russian role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geolocator View Post
    Not at all. The author completely ignores a simple thing - Moscow, Beijing or Teheran could do absolutely nothing in case if Assad is not supported by a majority as the most suitable leader in the situation. He hugely and on purpose exagerrates Russian role.
    One thing is sure: Assad is supported by its bayonets.
    As for question who the Syrian majority is supporting? The answer is everyone's guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    Of course it isn't popular. All the civilian protestors and the army defectors are just AQ members.
    A power struggle does not make a Popular uprising. Especially when those people go on a rampage over unpaid bountys.

    FP: Qatar please. Qatar.

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