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    Quote Originally Posted by Universal_Soldier View Post
    http://www.news.va/en/news/asiasyria...-leave-qusayr: Here's FSA's ultimatum to Christians in the Area.
    http://www.fides.org/aree/news/newsd...=31719&lan=eng
    http://www.fides.org/aree/news/newsd...=31536&lan=eng

    There're plenty of reports of Islamist and Jihadists fuktards doing what they are known for.
    If they did, that's fvcked up. No way around it. There's still a lot of more examples of the Syrian Army demolishing churches and using a "divide and rule" strategy with Syria's minorities. They've scared the Christian's into backing them. This isn't some Muslim crusade against Christian's. There wouldn't be Christian's fighting alongside the FSA if it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gresh View Post
    If they did, that's fvcked up. No way around it. There's still a lot of more examples of the Syrian Army demolishing churches and using a "divide and rule" strategy with Syria's minorities. They've scared the Christian's into backing them.
    I'd like to see some proof behind this theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gresh View Post
    If they did, that's fvcked up. No way around it. There's still a lot of more examples of the Syrian Army demolishing churches and using a "divide and rule" strategy with Syria's minorities. They've scared the Christian's into backing them. This isn't some Muslim crusade against Christian's. There wouldn't be Christian's fighting alongside the FSA if it was.

    They scare the Christians into backing them? Those Christians are not as scared or dumb as you think. They are very aware of their environment and they know who they are most worried about.

    ps: And yes, FSA did, there's no "if" about that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laworkerbee View Post
    I'd like to see some proof behind this theory.
    Assad's using a similar strategy to the one the French and British used more than half a century ago.

    http://www.mepc.org/journal/middle-e...ry-syria?print

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    The world could slip back into a Cold War over Syria and the sprawling Arab country could break up into two or three warring parts, with unforeseeable consequences for the Middle East, a senior Israeli military commander said.

    "Support for (Syrian President Bashar) Assad from Russia and China is taking us back to the Cold War," he said this week, on condition of anonymity. "The world is not a one-man show."

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...242203,00.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by EITAN88 View Post
    "The world is not a one-man show."
    Oh dear, the bitter irony.

    Ontopic:
    France Urges New Syria Sanctions

    France will ask the United States and its EU partners to impose a new set of sanctions against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s regime, French Foreign Minister Lorain Fabius said on Wednesday.
    “We want to step up pressure on the Damascus regime by intensifying sanctions, which means that I will speak without delay to my European and American colleagues and propose that [our] foreign ministers adopt a new series of sanctions at their next meeting,” Fabius said.
    “They should apply not only to Bashar al-Assad and his clique but also to military commanders.”
    At present, dozens of officials and organizations associated with Assad are under EU sanctions that include the freezing of assets and denial of visas.
    The UN says at least 12,000 people have been killed in Syria since the uprising against the rule of Assad began in March 2011.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gresh View Post
    Assad's using a similar strategy to the one the French and British used more than half a century ago.

    http://www.mepc.org/journal/middle-e...ry-syria?print
    That article covers French colonial policy, there is nothing in it which describes the Syrian government doing the same thing.

    You're stating the Syrian army is destroying churches and terrorizing Christians into siding with the government while at the same time stating that Christians are fighting alongside the FSA.....so which is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hisroyalhighness View Post
    Can't believe these are the same French who sold Assad's Syria Airbuses when it was on the US 'Axis of Evil' list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universal_Soldier View Post
    ps: And yes, FSA did, there's no "if" about that one.
    There is, nuncio Mario Zetari, one of the founders of Homs Musalaha denounced what Fides reported. It was also denied by local LCC, but that bears less meaning

    Zenari rejected reports by unspecified media that minority Christians were being targeted by some armed opposition groups.
    http://www.nowlebanon.com/NewsArticl...aspx?ID=408901

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalerab View Post
    there is, nuncio mario zetari, one of the founders of homs musalaha denounced what fides reported. It was also denied by local lcc, but that bears less meaning



    http://www.nowlebanon.com/newsarticl...aspx?id=408901
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laworkerbee View Post
    That article covers French colonial policy, there is nothing in it which describes the Syrian government doing the same thing.

    You're stating the Syrian army is destroying churches and terrorizing Christians into siding with the government while at the same time stating that Christians are fighting alongside the FSA.....so which is it?
    Both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gresh View Post
    Both.

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    lol. winning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universal_Soldier View Post
    lol. winning!
    Both are true. There are Christian's in the FSA, and the Syrian regime has shelled churches to dust. The majority still supports Assad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalerab View Post
    There is, nuncio Mario Zetari, one of the founders of Homs Musalaha denounced what Fides reported. It was also denied by local LCC, but that bears less meaning
    Zenari rejected reports by unspecified media that minority Christians were being targeted by some armed opposition groups.

    Vatican news agency Fides reported on Tuesday that Christians had massively fled the town of Qusayr, near Homs, where only about 1,000 were left of the 10,000 who lived there before the outbreak of violence.

    Fides said they were forced to leave after an armed opposition group led by General Abdel Salam Harba set an ultimatum. Christians in Qusayr were reportedly no longer allowed to move around freely and forced to let Muslims pass first.

    "So far, I would say that Christians share the same sad fate as all Syrians… I would not say that they are the object of particular discriminations, less so persecutions," said Zenari.
    We have the General Abdel Salam Harba's ultimatum posted here so how is it that Zenari denies it? Perhaps Zenari is walking a tight rope eh? The man is either in denial or is dodging and weaving to protect his flock, I'll go with the later.

    As for Haji attacking churches and Christians, I don't know why this is so hard to buy? Haji does it all the time. Don't get me started on how Haji treats Shia masjids and shrines.

    Quote Originally Posted by gresh View Post
    Both are true. There are Christian's in the FSA, and the Syrian regime has shelled churches to dust. The majority still supports Assad.
    Once again, you're stating that the Syrian army is actively targetting churches for destruction without the slightest bit of proof! Need I remind you where you live and that you have access to the same information as all of us?

    Don't be a Czechmate.

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    I see there were many good news for Assad today.
    Lavrov confirmed he has some helicpters to deliver him soon.
    He found someone in Russia ready to violate iyr EU sanctions and to to print some money for him (with the portrait of his beloved father).


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