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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    Pictures that are not cleared by the army are forbidden because the plane could carry some secret undisclosed payload. In which year did this occur?
    Also, you need not go to an airbase to see things you shouldn't. Kind of like this bird that overflew me on the beach one day - No markings but later I had a member here track it down as belonging to the Israeli Agricultural Ministry. An unmarked 747 flying on the deck which belongs to an Agricultural Ministry - Only in Israhel


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    Quote Originally Posted by gresh View Post
    What's the source?
    F.S.A twitter i would imagine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laworkerbee View Post
    Also, you need not go to an airbase to see things you shouldn't. Kind of like this bird that overflew me on the beach one day - No markings but later I had a member here track it down as belonging to the Israeli Agricultural Ministry. An unmarked 747 flying on the deck which belongs to an Agricultural Ministry - Only in Israhel

    It's true one can see sometime in Israel's sky things that are undisclosed.
    I remember I saw once in the sky an EC-3 Hawkeye. It was in 1977 or 1978. I immediately recognized the plane for having seen it in flight magazines, so I understood IAF had it in its inventory. But at the time it was completely undisclosed that a IAF had or was going to have EC-3s...

    Funny this picture... It's the first time I see a picture of an unmarked bird like in this photo. And I never heard about an Agriculture Ministry 747. It could have been a flight test of a 747 that was modernized by IAI and for that reason it was unmarked. What made you think it belonged to the Agriculture Ministry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    What made you think it belonged to the Agriculture Ministry?
    An English member here tracked the registration number - It is not easily seen but it's there under the left wing. I came across quite a few Israeli E2-C's at the IAF's base in Hatzerim but I won't post those photo's here.

    The only reason I noticed that bird is because it was flying on the deck and didn't start gaining altitude until it hit the coastline.


    The building in the foreground is the US Embassy in Tel Aviv.

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    http://www.rt.com/news/syrian-rebels-desecrate-christian-churches-897/



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    Quote Originally Posted by Laworkerbee View Post
    An English member here tracked the registration number - It is not easily seen but it's there under the left wing. I came across quite a few Israeli E2-C's at the IAF's base in Hatzerim but I won't post those photo's here.

    The only reason I noticed that bird is because it was flying on the deck and didn't start gaining altitude until it hit the coastline.


    The building in the foreground is the US Embassy in Tel Aviv.
    I recognize the US embassy's roof. The place you took the pictures reinforces my opinion the plane was on test flight after IAI modernization.

    The Hawkeyes you saw are officially retired. They are kept in operational storage and offered for sale on the SIBAT website as well as F-4s, A-4s...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    I recognize the US embassy's roof. The place you took the pictures reinforces my opinion the plane was on test flight after IAI modernization.

    The Hawkeyes you saw are officially retired. They are kept in operational storage and offered for sale on the SIBAT website as well as F-4s, A-4s...
    I saw two being refurbished or cannibalized when I was there and a third was being completely gutted. There were quite a few nodes I had not seen on American E2's that's for sure....maybe ECM or ELINT stuff?

    You can see the gear coming down the in second photo so it's pretty easy to guess where she is headed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laworkerbee View Post
    I saw two being refurbished or cannibalized when I was there and a third was being completely gutted. There were quite a few nodes I had not seen on American E2's that's for sure....maybe ECM or ELINT stuff?
    Sure, the IAF modified the original configuration over time.
    The last time I visited SIBAT website, the Hawkeyes were for sale as IAF surplus.

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    Remember Mabhouh, the Hamas terrorist that was allegedly assassinated by the Mossad in Dubai?

    His deputy was assassinated today in his flat in Damascus. He was responsible for the transfer of Iranian weapons to Gaza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    Sure, the IAF modified the original configuration over time.
    The last time I visited SIBAT website, the Hawkeyes were for sale as IAF surplus.
    Any with this unit patch on them?


    Sorry for going off topic folks.

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    Syrian prisoners were left to die in military hospital 'dark rooms', while others were drugged to stop them speaking with international observers, a defecting military doctor has told The Daily Telegraph.

    In his first media interview since he fled his position as head of the intensive care unit in an Aleppo military hospital, the doctor gave a chilling eyewitness account of secret wards where he said patients were tortured or sent to their death."Important arrested patients, those that had more information to reveal, had to be healed. Those that were useless to them were sent to a secret ward that we nicknamed "the dark room" where they were tortured, eliminated or left to die."
    The doctor, who for security reasons can only be identified as Ahmed, worked in military hospitals in Aleppo, Deraa and the suburbs of Damascus each of which had these wards.
    The patients were kept in "dire" conditions with their hands and feet handcuffed to the beds and their eyes blindfolded in windowless wards, often in a basement.
    Deprived of antibiotics and painkillers, and often left to lie in their own faeces, many of the patients sported gaping infected wounds.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ark-rooms.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamming_Python View Post
    What were you doing in an IAF airbase?
    LAWB is ex 1st Gigolo Cavalry, but he spent most of his service on Asian duty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laworkerbee View Post
    Any with this unit patch on them?


    Sorry for going off topic folks.
    This us a well known insignia but I don't remember the name of the squadron to which it belongs. I'm getting old.


    EDIT:
    Found it. This is the insignia of the "Hawkeye Squadron". Here it is in another variation (9th rank, 1st from the right): http://www.iaf.org.il/36-he/IAF.aspx
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    is it possible to track what airplane it is on a radar? like when a plane intrudes your airspace the radar automatically tells you that it is a F-4 or F-16?

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    Quote Originally Posted by memoli View Post
    is it possible to track what airplane it is on a radar? like when a plane intrudes your airspace the radar automatically tells you that it is a F-4 or F-16?
    The American Hawk SAM system (from the 60's) has a TV camera which zooms on the target.....................

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