Hello? That's confirmed and no secret! I posted about this a while ago, NY-Times article. So WTF man?!Originally Posted by gresh
And how could you see them do operations together unless you were there? We watch video's here, videos that for the most part are recorded by these groups to show us what they want us to see. So please keep that in mind when watching these videos.
WTF again! You can't possibly know that! I mean there is zero fucking chance.
They openly denounce Al-Qaeda. Why would they work with them? Assad's the one with connections to Al-Qaeda. Otherwise he wouldn't be letting them out of prison.
If by "holding cells", you mean makeshift jails in rooms in some house, then yeah. What I meant was they probably don't have room to hold every person they capture. I think that explains a lot of the executions.
Feel free to quote an article from a respectable news organization to support this.
I'll gladly do the same for a counter.
Look, I like you and think you're an alright guy so I just want to be clear I'm not trying to fuck with you or be an asshole.
BUT
Once again, you can't make that statement with any accuracy. You have no idea of the kinds of conditions people are being held and or tortured in, and in no way can these be made up as excuses for executing people who have no legal processes brought against them.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1649248.htmlBEIRUT — An al-Qaida-inspired group claimed responsibility for dozens of attacks across Syria, the latest evidence that extremists are exploiting the chaos to make inroads in another Middle Eastern country.
The Syrian regime has long blamed terrorists for the 16-month-old revolt, and the presence of al-Qaida groups creates new difficulties for Arab and Western countries trying to help force President Bashar Assad from power.
The opposition and the rebel Free Syrian Army deny having any links to terrorism, and say they do not have the desire or the capabilities to carry out massive suicide bombings and other al-Qaida-style attacks.
On Tuesday, the SITE monitoring group, which tracks jihadist chatter on the Internet, said the Al-Nusra Front released statements on extremist websites in late June claiming the attacks were to avenge the killings of Syrians by the government.
One of the attacks targeted a pro-regime television station in the town of Drousha, south of the capital, Damascus, on June 27. Seven people were killed in the attack on Al-Ikhbariya TV.
Al-Nusra said the station is an arm of the regime and the attack sought to make the station "taste from the cup of torture" and force every member of the regime to wonder: "When will my turn come?" The statement included photos of 11 men it said were kidnapped in the attack.
Since the beginning all the defectors who started the FSA and most of the civilians joining up have come out and denounced Al-Qaeda, even said they hate them. There are plenty of jihadi's from outside joining the fighting against Assad, and I have no doubt that some of them are AQ, but for the most part the people fighting Assad are normal Syrian's who've never met a person from AQ in their life. Al-Nusra is definitely inspired by AQ in Iraq and they do some pretty radical sh!t, but the FSA ain't really with that. For the most part, the suicide bombings and stuff have been carried about by Al-Nusra. They take credit for it, so I don't know why anybody would doubt that.
Some groups of the FSA torture and execute captors. There isn't any excuse for it. Like you've said before, "it's the Middle East". That's just how they roll. There's no way I'd ever condone that sort of thing.
My biggest problem is when people are like "oh, everybody fighting Assad is a terrorist and supports AQ". It's just a big generalization.In my view, Assad is a terrorist. The Syrian regime could easily be classified as terrorists and they've worked hand in hand with terrorists for decades.
I understand you're not trying to be an asshole, it's just debating. I don't take this stuff personally and I appreciate people's different views, even if I don't agree with them.
how does an execution vid serve as propaganda ?
sorry , i know that site is retarded
Please don't tell me it's you who your avatar is showing.
r u talking to me
and whats wrong with my avatar
He's asking you if that's what you look like now. I think he's implying that if it is, you're awfully young to be on here.
I guess this is Assad's last last chance. But don't worry, if the plan fails, Annan can always express concern.UN envoy seeks Iranian help on Syrian crisis
BEIRUT (AP) — International envoy Kofi Annan tried to rescue his peace plan for Syria by seeking help Monday from Iran, a staunch ally and military backer of President Bashar Assad's regime.Before flying to Tehran, Annan said he had agreed on a new approach with Assad to stop the violence, which activists say has killed more than 17,000 people since the conflict began in March 2011.
Annan did not spell out the agreement or say what kind of involvement he saw for Iran in resolving the crisis. Anti-regime fighters dismissed any role for Iran in a plan they and some experts say has little hope of succeeding.
"Kofi thinks you can't have a political transition and solution without the Iranians on board, but this is still part of the understanding that Assad and the regime will be part of the solution — an idea many of us have given up on," said Salman Shaikh, director of the Brookings Doha Center and an analyst on regional politics.
lol no
thats my swedish cousin jurpa
hes a troubled boy xD
gresh, why when Assad denies anything you don't believe him, but unknown "opposition" and FSA should be trusted?
Just recently in Egypt a president said that he somehow leaved the MB bunch? Should I believe that he seized to be MB or he simply tries to get money from someone?
Bashar's a proven liar, and in almost every single question from that interview he lied. I'm surprised there's even people over the age of 12 that believe him. Believe whichever side you want, but the FSA isn't the one backed into a corner trying to cover up massive war crimes by hiring PR guys from the West while the evidence mounts.
It seems like you’re are taking the matter personally, So what if Al Assad is a liar, name me any president or prime minister who isn’t a liar.
It served to banned your ass.
Snuff video = banned member.
Politician's lying is one thing. Most politician's where I'm from can be voted out of office. Assad is a dictator and war criminal responsible for the murder of tens of thousands. It's mind-boggling you can't tell the difference.
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