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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    Assad seems to be unable to control the whole territory. Now, he tries to keep Damascus and by doing so he is forced to move troops and to lose over other cities, border crossings… This is the impression I have.
    I keep thinking about the uprisings after the Gulf War in '91 and how Saddam took his territory back from the Shia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laworkerbee View Post
    If that were the case then the Sunni would have no reason to fight for the government - Everything I've seen over the past 48 hours suggests that the government is trying to keep the republic together.

    While it's easy to look at ethnic divides in Syria I think people are overlooking something very important and that is the secular versus religious aspect of this conflict. Every secular person in Syria - Especially the women must be horrified at the thought of Haji's taking over and empowering the mullahs to run their lives.
    I should have been more specific. From what I've seen it seems that in the Kurdish cities at least, the Syrian army simply gave very little resistance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laworkerbee View Post
    I keep thinking about the uprisings after the Gulf War in '91 and how Saddam took his territory back from the Shia.
    Yes. It is still too early to have any certainty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kurdman View Post
    I should have been more specific. From what I've seen it seems that in the Kurdish cities at least, the Syrian army simply gave very little resistance.
    It's cool, baby. I've always appreciated your outlook and posts on here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    Yes. It is still too early to have any certainty.
    I was just considering how he did it and the means he used. I'm afraid once the Syrian government gets its act together there will be mass killings equal to what happened in '91.

    Assad has until Jan before American intervention becomes a possible reality.

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    A bombing in Damascus claimed by Syrian rebels Wednesday killed key figures in President Bashar Assad's inner circle. A look at some surviving members:


    —Maher Assad, the president's youngest brother, commands Syria's best equipped army division and six brigades of the Republican Guards, responsible for security in the capital, Damascus. He is known for his hot temper and ruthless tactics.


    —Ali Mamlouk, special security adviser, once the head of the feared internal security service, also has links to other security branches and operations.


    —Abdel-Fattah Qudsiyeh, chief of military intelligence, is among the many officials sanctioned by the European Union for his role in the brutal crackdown against protesters.


    —Walid Moallem, foreign minister, one of the few officials who appear before reporters to explain the Assad regime's actions. The U.S. has placed him on a list of sanctioned officials because of his role in the crackdown on protests. Before being named foreign minister in 2006, he was deeply involved in failed peace talks with Israel.


    —Farouk Sharaa, Assad's vice president, would succeed him if he resigns or dies under the current regime. Once the most public face of the regime of Assad and his father before him, Sharaa has dropped out of sight in recent weeks.


    —Bushra Shawkat, Assad's older sister and widow of Assef Shawkat, a feared general who was killed in Wednesday's bomb blast. She was thought to wield considerable influence over her brother and her husband.


    —Asma Assad, the president's British-born wife, is known more for her expensive tastes and glamorous appearance than her political influence, but the EU listed her among the Syrians against whom it has imposed sanctions.


    —Bouthaina Shabaan, Assad's spokeswoman, has been the main representative of the regime to the outside world. It is not known how much influence she has over its policies. She started as an interpreter for Assad's father. She is a professor in the English department of Damascus University.

    http://news.yahoo.com/surviving-memb...145015029.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laworkerbee View Post
    It's cool, baby. I've always appreciated your outlook and posts on here.



    I was just considering how he did it and the means he used. I'm afraid once the Syrian government gets its act together there will be mass killings equal to what happened in '91.

    Assad has until Jan before American intervention becomes a possible reality.
    That is always a possibility. Will Assad risk it? He will lose the possibility of carving out a bit of land for his clan, and off course ultimately the Alawites will suffer the consequences.

    Likewise with you mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laworkerbee View Post
    I was just considering how he did it and the means he used. I'm afraid once the Syrian government gets its act together there will be mass killings equal to what happened in '91.

    Assad has until Jan before American intervention becomes a possible reality.
    Assad is objectively facing a much more complex situation than Saddam.
    Saddam had to concentrated his Republican Guard mainly in one province to smash the rebellion. Assad is attacked from all directions. He relieved troops from the Golan and sent them to Damascus… The next day, fight spread near Qunaitra. He seems unable to fight everywhere. We don't know what remains loyal from his army, but I have the impression it is mainly the 4th Division.

    Maybe an external intervention will not be needed after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    Assad is objectively facing a much more complex situation than Saddam.
    Saddam had to concentrated his Republican Guard mainly in one province to smash the rebellion. Assad is attacked from all directions. He relieved troops from the Golan and sent them to Damascus… The next day, fight spread near Qunaitra. He seems unable to fight everywhere. We don't know what remains loyal from his army, but I have the impression it is mainly the 4th Division.

    Maybe an external intervention will not be needed after all.
    I was thinking more in terms of what the Republican guard did to cities like Najaf and Nasiriyah. Once the Iraqi's were able to catch their breath and mass their forces they cut those cities off and started with massed arrests and executions. The rest is history.

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    Reports that the FSA has retreated from Qaboon i think they are running out of ammo

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    There are a number of different accounts on what is going on! A number of twitters from people that are pro FSA inside Syria are saying the FSA is still going strong and is moving towards taking ground and a number of pro Assad twitter posters are saying FSA is loosing ground and that the terrorist are about to start jamming the state TV and radio and have kidnapped a TV news announcer to use in their fabricated broadcasts..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ISNJH View Post
    There are a number of different accounts on what is going on! A number of twitters from people that are pro FSA inside Syria are saying the FSA is still going strong and is moving towards taking ground and a number of pro Assad twitter posters are saying FSA is loosing ground and that the terrorist are about to start jamming the state TV and radio and have kidnapped a TV news announcer to use in their fabricated broadcasts..
    Which is why Twitter is pointless. Unsubstantiated garbage from unconfirmed sources.

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    Its not entirely pointless and has some use. The fact that even pro Assad posters are saying State TV and radio is about to go off and be replaced with a fake TV and radio signal would indicate the FSA would have to be close enough to actively jam and interrupt the stations that are putting out such a powerful signal and if they are that close then the report that the Syrian army has cleaned the city of FSA is not true..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ISNJH View Post
    Its not entirely pointless and has some use. The fact that even pro Assad posters are saying State TV and radio is about to go off and be replaced with a fake TV and radio signal would indicate the FSA would have to be close enough to actively jam and interrupt the stations that are putting out such a powerful signal and if they are that close then the report that the Syrian army has cleaned the city of FSA is not true..

    If they go with their fake tv, they should broadcast some of Gresh's vids. That should render Assad definitely depressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laworkerbee View Post
    Which is why Twitter is pointless. Unsubstantiated garbage from unconfirmed sources.
    Of course, it is only for people that like to "follow" others. For sheep basically.

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