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    At least three people were killed and 33 wounded on Tuesday in running clashes between pro- and anti-Damascus regime supporters in northern Lebanon, security and army officials said.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...535f3544a4.641

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    Qadri Jamil, Syria’s deputy prime minister for economic affairs, said Syria was ready to discuss the resignation of President Bashar al-Assad as part of a negotiated settlement to 17 months of bloodshed that activists say has killed 23,000.

    http://english.alarabiya.net/article...21/233474.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by EITAN88 View Post
    Qadri Jamil, Syria’s deputy prime minister for economic affairs, said Syria was ready to discuss the resignation of President Bashar al-Assad as part of a negotiated settlement to 17 months of bloodshed that activists say has killed 23,000.

    http://english.alarabiya.net/article...21/233474.html
    The Syrian government needs to check its head gear if this is even close to being true. There will be no compromise, the Baathist regime is in a fight for its life and every member will face a shallow grave if the government collapses. Even saying such things just gives the West and its Gulf Arab butt buddies a bigger hard on to add fuel to the fire.

    So either this is a bit of disinformation or Qadri Jamil needs to be fired for being a fucking moron. This is a fight to the death, make no mistake.

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    it seems fake news i watched the conference in arabic and he didn't said that he said we will discuss everything so it seems some kind of interpretation from afp lol

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    Syrian forces kill 23 rebels in town near Damascus

    BEIRUT -- Government forces stormed a rebel-held town outside Damascus Tuesday after days of fierce fighting, killing dozens of people including at least 23 fighters, according to activist groups and a rebel spokesman.
    http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/syrian-f...#ixzz24CYDtkMu

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    Update on tripoli clashes : after a ceasfire was negociated by tripoli authorities with bab al tabaneh (sunni) sniper fire from jabal al mohsen (allawi) killed 2 person in bab al tabaneh after that MTV reported that rifaat eid leader of the allawi arab democratic party residence was surrounded by lebanese army soldiers...
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    Some moron from Sydney died doing "humanitarian work" in Syria.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1226455271345

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    Quote Originally Posted by themacedonian View Post
    Some moron from Sydney died doing "humanitarian work" in Syria.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1226455271345

    A SYDNEY sheik killed by regime loyalists in war-torn Syria was known to police and the intelligence services because of his "extremist" views.
    Mustapha Al Majzoub was killed in a rocket attack and reportedly buried in Syria on Monday after a service attended by his brother, Islamic scholar Fedaa Majzoub.
    The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade could not officially confirm his death yesterday. However, tributes to the 30-year-old, reportedly a former teacher at Islamic school Unity Grammar College in Austral, flooded Muslim social media sites as his family issued a statement.
    "Sheik Mustapha was killed by a rocket attack on Sunday 20 August while carrying out humanitarian and charity work to help the people of Syria," said the MuslimVillage.com statement.
    Sources told The Australian Mr Majzoub had been on the radar of security services as an extremist preacher. "He was known to law enforcement and the intelligence community for extremist views," an official said. A second official said he was known to authorities because of his views and links to other persons of interest.
    Sydney community leader Keysar Trad said Mr Majzoub had a wife and three children.
    He had no reason to believe Mr Majzoub was an extremist.


    it asked me to make an account/be a subscriber for the newspaper so I dug this out through google.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laworkerbee View Post
    The Syrian government needs to check its head gear if this is even close to being true. There will be no compromise, the Baathist regime is in a fight for its life and every member will face a shallow grave if the government collapses. Even saying such things just gives the West and its Gulf Arab butt buddies a bigger hard on to add fuel to the fire.

    So either this is a bit of disinformation or Qadri Jamil needs to be fired for being a fucking moron. This is a fight to the death, make no mistake.
    Who knows, the FSA isn't one front, there are a lot of egos and different groups involved here, if he lets them believe he's negociating with one or more of them, they might grow suspicious of eachother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandemonium View Post
    Who knows, the FSA isn't one front, there are a lot of egos and different groups involved here, if he lets them believe he's negociating with one or more of them, they might grow suspicious of eachother.
    That's what I meant when I said this could be disinformation.

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    Russia warns West over Syria after Obama threats

    BEIRUT (*******) - Russia warned the West on Tuesday against unilateral action on Syria, a day after U.S. President Barack Obama threatened "enormous consequences" if his Syrian counterpart used chemical or biological arms or even moved them in a menacing way.
    http://news.yahoo.com/obama-warns-as...005455724.html

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    Syria Air Strikes Against Rebels Ramp Up

    Analysts say it is difficult to come up with reliable figures on the Syrian air force and air defenses because of the extreme secrecy that blankets its military matters. Some of the aircraft used so far also raise questions whether the regime – anticipating major battles against Western powers – is engaging in deception.The Syrians have been using trainer aircraft fitted to operate as light ground support when they could have used some of the relatively modern Soviet-made MiG-25s and MiG-29s it is believed to have.
    "So far, Syria has mainly used low-end systems, such as jet trainers or helicopter gunships, against the rebels," said Pieter Wezeman, senior researcher at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute.
    "That raises the question why they have not used more advanced equipment," he said. "Are they holding back, saving them for possible outside intervention?"
    Chivvis, the Rand analyst, believes it could also be a question of the regime unable to trust pilots not to defect with relatively advanced aircraft that would be needed to resist later.
    In June, a Syrian fighter pilot flew his MiG-21 warplane to neighboring Jordan, where he was given asylum.
    Wezeman, who tracks Damascus' arms purchases, said its strategy on air force and air defenses has changed since Israel's 2007 airstrike against a suspected nuclear facility in eastern Syria.
    Since then, he said, the regime has gone on a shopping spree for modern Russian-built aircraft and anti-aircraft missiles. Chivvis added that it may have spent more than $3 billion.
    Purchases have included 24 late-model MiG-29M2 fighters and 36 Yak-130 combat training jets that can also carry modern weapons for ground attack missions, he said. Although Moscow has not delivered the MiGs and Yaks, SIPRI's reports suggest that Russia continues to ship air defense missiles and other munitions to Syria.
    In 2008, Russia's ally Belarus delivered 33 second-hand MiG-23 fighter-bombers. It remains unclear whether these were used to bolster the air force's numerical strength or to be used as parts for existing Mig-23s, he said.
    SIPRI reported in 2009 that Syrian Mi-24 helicopter gunships had arrived in Russia for overhaul. But a shipment of Mi-24s back to Syria earlier this year was aborted after the British insurers of the vessel carrying them withdrew coverage.
    In recent years, Syria has upgraded its extensive network of anti-aircraft missile batteries, purchasing new models and modernizing existing ones, including Russian-made 36 Pantsyr mobile surface-to-air missile systems and at least two of the eight Buk-M2E mobile SAMs on order. The Pantsyrs, considered particularly effective against attacking aircraft, feature a combination of 30mm cannons paired with a radar and anti-aircraft missiles all on the same vehicle.
    Experts say that Syria possesses one of the most robust air defense networks in the region, with multiple SAMs providing overlapping coverage of key areas in combination with thousands of anti-aircraft guns capable of engaging attacking aircraft at lower levels.
    Wezeman said that due to the secrecy involved, it was not possible to confirm whether the Syrians also obtained the advanced, Russian-built S-300 anti-aircraft missiles considered to be the cutting edge in aircraft interception technology.
    Moscow had refused to deliver the systems, but there have been unconfirmed reports that other nations may have sent Syria the missiles, which could make any aerial intervention very costly for the attackers.
    Separately, Syria also has obtained from Russia the mobile Bastion-P land-based coastal defense systems, including Yakhont anti-ship missiles capable of sinking large warships, including aircraft carriers.
    Analysts have warned that an attempt to impose a no-fly zone such as the one against Moammar Gadhafi's regime in Libya last year would be a very complicated task, which could result in serious losses. Syria's air defense capabilities are much more extensive and sophisticated than Libya's were.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1820019.html

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    Syria envoy says Assad resignation is up for discussion

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19329637

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    Aleppo foreign fighters and western arms

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...s-8063515.html

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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...cial-says.html

    Apparently the british are supporting the "rebels" in Syria with intelligence.

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