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    Many of these men are being paid by the $100 million dollar fund the Saudi's set up - It makes sense that records are kept as to who is who and who has been paid, etc,.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laworkerbee View Post
    Many of these men are being paid by the $100 million dollar fund the Saudi's set up - It makes sense that records are kept as to who is who and who has been paid, etc,.
    Btw, many insurgents in Idlib province get paid the equivalent of $60 per month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m4rs75 View Post
    Btw, many insurgents in Idlib province get paid the equivalent of $60 per month.
    I've been reading about conscript soldiers shaking down people at checkpoints - Mainly for water

    Conscripts make on average about $12 per month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletForTheBear View Post
    Qatar calls for no-fly zone in Syria
    Where was Qatar's concern when just 20 miles off its coast her neighbor Bahrain was murdering its Shia-majority population in order to sustain a dictatorship/"monarchy"? Oh yeah, in that instance the "humanitarian" UN/Arab League/"West" didn't raise any objections when Saudi Arabia invaded in order to maintain Sunni control.

    And anyone that wishes to call it anything other than an invasion, just compare it to the Soviet "deployment" into Afghanistan following the "invitation" of that government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mechin View Post
    Where was Qatar's concern when just 20 miles off its coast her neighbor Bahrain was murdering its Shia-majority population in order to sustain a dictatorship/"monarchy"? Oh yeah, in that instance the "humanitarian" UN/Arab League/"West" didn't raise any objections when Saudi Arabia invaded in order to maintain Sunni control.

    And anyone that wishes to call it anything other than an invasion, just compare it to the Soviet "deployment" into Afghanistan following the "invitation" of that government.
    Your over exaggerating

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    Quote Originally Posted by mechin View Post
    Where was Qatar's concern when just 20 miles off its coast her neighbor Bahrain was murdering its Shia-majority population in order to sustain a dictatorship/"monarchy"? Oh yeah, in that instance the "humanitarian" UN/Arab League/"West" didn't raise any objections when Saudi Arabia invaded in order to maintain Sunni control.

    And anyone that wishes to call it anything other than an invasion, just compare it to the Soviet "deployment" into Afghanistan following the "invitation" of that government.
    And Syria/Iran praised the revolts that took down Ben Ali and Mubarak. Welcome to Arab-Islamic hypocrisy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mechin View Post
    Where was Qatar's concern when just 20 miles off its coast her neighbor Bahrain was murdering its Shia-majority population in order to sustain a dictatorship/"monarchy"? Oh yeah, in that instance the "humanitarian" UN/Arab League/"West" didn't raise any objections when Saudi Arabia invaded in order to maintain Sunni control.

    And anyone that wishes to call it anything other than an invasion, just compare it to the Soviet "deployment" into Afghanistan following the "invitation" of that government.
    Being controlled by Shiaa means that Iran will be in door steps of Saudi Arabia, which is can't be tolerated ! Needless to say that Shiaa considered allies of the West (Regardless the games between west and Iran), and prove it in Afghanistan when they support Nato also in Iraq.

    So, It is out of question, Bahrain will not be Shiaa controlled even if there is 99% Shiaa population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geolocator View Post
    Who will go around when everyone is really happy that Russia and China block everything in the way? Another pain in the ass for U.S. or crippled Europe?
    I can't see any reason why they should help to establish another kinky salafite regime for Qatar.
    The real salafi regime exist in Afghanstan, those Mujahdeen who humiliated/ing anybody dares to invade there lands. Other Arabic/islamic regimes can't be considered as Salafi.

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    Where does the situation stand in Syria today , how many areas are under rebel control and how many are under government control ?

    Is this a stale mate now for both parties ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AustinJ View Post
    Where does the situation stand in Syria today , how many areas are under rebel control and how many are under government control ?

    Is this a stale mate now for both parties ?
    Yes, stalemate. How much who controls? Damascus is under government control with ongoing insurgency, Daraa, Idlib and Hama as well. Homs is a stalemate with each side controlling about 50 percent of the city, Aleppo situation is similar. Rebels control much of the east and north, Kurds are in control of most of the Kurdish areas safe for biggest cities such as Hasaka and Qamishli.

    also some news

    Damascus bombers 'hit Syria military HQ'

    Two large explosions have shaken the centre of Syria's capital Damascus, near the military general staff headquarters.

    The blasts happened just before 07:00 local time (04:00 GMT) in an area dominated by government buildings.

    Information Minister Omran Zoabi said two roadside bombs caused the blasts, and said one might have been inside the main military compound.

    Witnesses said the main building of the compound was on fire.

    State media said only that fires had broken out near the military headquarters and while reports said there had been several injuries, officials said there had been no casualties in the attacks.

    The BBC's Rafid Jabboori, in Damascus, says the apparent target and timing are very significant.

    The staff command compound is the heart of the Syrian army and it is located in a strategic position in Damascus, near to the state TV building.

    The main armed rebel group, the Free Syrian Army, announced a few days ago that it had moved its command inside Syria in an apparent attempt to raise its effort against the army's continuing crackdown on rebels, our correspondent says.

    Witnesses in the city heard bursts of small arms fire coming from the area around the military HQ, and reports said a gun battle was raging between rebels and army personnel.

    But Mr Zoabi sought to play down the attack, saying the explosions had caused only superficial damage.

    State television described the blasts, close to one of the city's busiest areas at Umayyad Square, as a terrorist attack.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19725308

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    Press TV journalist Maya Naser killed in Damascus

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/09...lled-in-syria/

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletForTheBear View Post
    Qatar calls for no-fly zone in Syria
    They’re not going to get a UN mandate, so if they want a no-flight zone they might as well stop talking and get to it – and stop waiting for Western powers to come and do their work. Together Qatar, UAE, and Saudi Arabian could mount a strong air force. At least on paper. Perhaps Turkey would assist. And the Syrian air force can’t be worth much after nearly two years of civil war and weapons sales ban. I don’t think Russia would interfere directly, perhaps Iran would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalerab View Post
    Kurds are in control of most of the Kurdish areas safe for biggest cities such as Hasaka and Qamishli.
    Why dont Kurds declare their own independence if they control most of Kurdish areas or are they fully supporting the revolution and want to be part of post Assad regim along with rebels ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AustinJ View Post
    Why dont Kurds declare their own independence if they control most of Kurdish areas or are they fully supporting the revolution and want to be part of post Assad regim along with rebels ?
    Because Kurds do not want secession, independent Kurdish state is impossible to archive. Turks would crush them together with Syrian sunnis and Iraqi shias. Instead they are working towards their own autonomy/federal state like in Iraq. But Kurds do not want to end up like sunni cities which are against Assad so they are playing on both sides, if army leaves their towns they leave them alone and army can relocate troops without fear of Kurds opening second front on their rear.

    And Kurds are playing on opposition note as well since they are hosting refugees from warzones (many sunnis), giving them protection (like in Sheikh Maksoud - Aleppo district) and are not cooperating with mukhabarat so refugees are not afraid of being sent to prison. Morever FSA fighters can go to their territory (unarmed) and buy necessities which are scarce in war-zones. And their leaders have pretty strong anti-Assad rhetoric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalerab View Post
    Because Kurds do not want secession, independent Kurdish state is impossible to archive. Turks would crush them together with Syrian sunnis and Iraqi shias. Instead they are working towards their own autonomy/federal state like in Iraq. But Kurds do not want to end up like sunni cities which are against Assad so they are playing on both sides, if army leaves their towns they leave them alone and army can relocate troops without fear of Kurds opening second front on their rear.

    And Kurds are playing on opposition note as well since they are hosting refugees from warzones (many sunnis), giving them protection (like in Sheikh Maksoud - Aleppo district) and are not cooperating with mukhabarat so refugees are not afraid of being sent to prison. Morever FSA fighters can go to their territory (unarmed) and buy necessities which are scarce in war-zones. And their leaders have pretty strong anti-Assad rhetoric.
    Why impossible? Little states or nations like balkan states can be independent but not the Kurdish people? So crushing certain minorities in this world is allowed? - but not others.

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