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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonetopick View Post
    Does anyone have any concrete in depth info on who newsANNA really are? There is little background to them
    ANNA is a russian backed news agency (http://anna-news.info) registered in Abkhazia. Obviously they're pro-Asad, and they're always embedded with Govt. forces.
    Was founded by Marat Musin, Russian crisis expert. Most of reporters are volunteers from Russia and ANNA works not just in Syria. It appears that ANNA has no financial sources but only donations.

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    The upgrade to T-72AV level with ERA was made some times in the late 90's, using equipment imported from ex- soviet stores, possible Belorussian(?). The upgrade it self was preformed in Syria it self by an Armenian company, this may also explain the non standard ERA configuration seen on most Syrian T-72's.

    Please don't ask for a source, it's at least 10 years ago I read somewhere on the internet...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pride View Post
    ANNA is a russian backed news agency (http://anna-news.info) registered in Abkhazia. Obviously they're pro-Asad, and they're always embedded with Govt. forces.
    Was founded by Marat Musin, Russian crisis expert. Most of reporters are volunteers from Russia and ANNA works not just in Syria. It appears that ANNA has no financial sources but only donations.
    TBH, I feel that ANNA is just a proxy of RT. They came out of nowhere and somehow managed to get embedded with Syria's most elite combat formation. If you go to their website, they've reported on nothing but Syria, that is literally all they do. The 'donations' most likely source from the Russian government, as their propaganda output is in line with most of RT's stories. However, that said, their footage is almost always excellent, quite like RT's. Russia has a knack for getting it's state media arm into some sketchy places for extended periods of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impartial Bias View Post
    TBH, I feel that ANNA is just a proxy of RT. They came out of nowhere and somehow managed to get embedded with Syria's most elite combat formation. If you go to their website, they've reported on nothing but Syria, that is literally all they do. The 'donations' most likely source from the Russian government, as their propaganda output is in line with most of RT's stories. However, that said, their footage is almost always excellent, quite like RT's. Russia has a knack for getting it's state media arm into some sketchy places for extended periods of time.
    I doubt that ANNA is RT proxy. I've done some research on Marat Musin - ANNA chief and seems like he hates 3 things FSA, Yeltsin regime, Putin regime. Considering RT as direct Kremlin mouthpiece I think it's highly unlikely that RT will put a guy like Musin in charge of it's proxy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osobist View Post
    I doubt that ANNA is RT proxy. I've done some research on Marat Musin - ANNA chief and seems like he hates 3 things FSA, Yeltsin regime, Putin regime. Considering RT as direct Kremlin mouthpiece I think it's highly unlikely that RT will put a guy like Musin in charge of it's proxy.
    Interesting, did not know that. Were you able to find out anything else about Musin? Sounds like he's an ethnic Abkhaz? Did you get any of his prior works?
    It's difficult researching it for me, it seems most source information would be in Russian. Any help would be appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impartial Bias View Post
    Interesting, did not know that. Were you able to find out anything else about Musin? Sounds like he's an ethnic Abkhaz? Did you get any of his prior works?
    It's difficult researching it for me, it seems most source information would be in Russian. Any help would be appreciated.
    I doubt you will find anything on him in English part of Internet, but he's quite active in Russian one. Most of his interest centered about raging Kleptocracy going on in Russia late 30 years with Syria being sort of hobby. But he's not some foaming commie with a zeal, guy is quite proficient and capable. Here's short bio on him http://traditio-ru.org/wiki/Марат_Мазитович_Мусин hope you find something of use for you with Google translate.

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    Report: CIA bolstering support for moderate Syrian opposition forces

    [*******#8F8F8F][*******#8F8F8F]By JPOST.COM STAFF[/COLOR][/COLOR]
    [*******#8F8F8F]10/03/2013 10:26[/COLOR]

    Agency expected to train a few hundred fighter each month.

    In a bid to bolster moderate forces in Syria against Islamic rebel factions, the CIA has reportedly been expanding a covert program to train US-backed opposition fighters in the embattled country, The Washington Post on Thursday cited US officials as saying.

    According to the report, the agency was expected to train only "a few hundred" moderate fighters each month following the expansion of the program. The official told the Post that the limited number of CIA-trained fighters would not be enough to overcome Islamic extremists rebels who are also fighting against Syrian President Bashar Assad's regime.

    The limited impact of the clandestine program allows the CIA to provide enough backing to the moderates to ensure they don't lose in the civil war, but not enough for them to hail an overall victory, the Post cited the officials as saying.

    Such restraints on the agency's authorities stem from the US desire to see a political resolution in Syria, which requires a stalemate among opposition rebel groups, the report said.


    CONTINUED: http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Rep...-forces-327751

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    [SIZE=3][FONT=arial]Aleppo Stalemate Fuels Rebel Frustration[/FONT][/SIZE]

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    [/FONT][/SIZE][*******#464647][FONT=Lucida Grande][SIZE=3][FONT=arial]The struggle for Syria's second city Aleppo has been locked in stalemate for months, fueling the frustration of rebels who see no way out but to doggedly battle on.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]
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    "We take a building and then lose it two or three days later, only to take it back the following week," said Abu Ahmed, whose platoon operates in the Salaheddin and Saif al-Dawla districts of the devastated city that was once Syria's commercial capital.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]
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    "There is no progress. We are not winning the war," the 42-year-old fighter grumbled as he spoke to an Agence France Presse reporter who passed the night with the platoon on the front line.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]
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    "Take this street, for example. We took it in just an hour a year ago, and since then we haven't advanced one meter (yard)."[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]
    [*******#464647][FONT=Lucida Grande][SIZE=3][FONT=arial]The conflict in Syria has cost more than 115,000 lives since it erupted in March 2011 with peaceful protests that became a civil war after a harsh regime crackdown on dissent.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]
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    But the fighting came late to Aleppo.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]
    [*******#464647][FONT=Lucida Grande][SIZE=3][FONT=arial]Rebels seized parts of the northern city in July 2012 and President Bashar Assad's troops have been trying ever since to regain full control of it.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]
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    Morale is particularly low this night. One of the rebels has been seriously wounded by a sniper who shot him in the chest.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]
    [*******#464647][FONT=Lucida Grande][SIZE=3][FONT=arial]Resting his AK-47 assault rifle against the wall and taking off his combat jacket, one of Abu Ahmed's men said bluntly: "This war is wearing us down.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]
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    "The food is bad, and there's not enough of it. We can only wash a couple of times a week because we don't always have water, and the electricity comes and goes."[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]
    [*******#464647][FONT=Lucida Grande][SIZE=3][FONT=arial]But it is not just everyday comforts that are lacking, but the means to wage a proper war, said Abu Ahmed, as he opens a plastic bag and empties its contents on the floor.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]
    [*******#464647][FONT=Lucida Grande][SIZE=3][FONT=arial]Two men collect the bullets up and snap them into magazines, which they shove in their jackets. [/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]
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    [*******#000000]More after the link[/COLOR]
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    http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/100699-aleppo-stalemate-fuels-rebel-frustration

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    Report: CIA bolstering support for moderate Syrian opposition forces[*******#8F8F8F][*******#8F8F8F]By JPOST.COM STAFF[/COLOR][/COLOR][*******#8F8F8F]10/03/2013 10:26[/COLOR]Agency expected to train a few hundred fighter each month.In a bid to bolster moderate forces in Syria against Islamic rebel factions, the CIA has reportedly been expanding a covert program to train US-backed opposition fighters in the embattled country, The Washington Post on Thursday cited US officials as saying.According to the report, the agency was expected to train only "a few hundred" moderate fighters each month following the expansion of the program. The official told the Post that the limited number of CIA-trained fighters would not be enough to overcome Islamic extremists rebels who are also fighting against Syrian President Bashar Assad's regime.The limited impact of the clandestine program allows the CIA to provide enough backing to the moderates to ensure they don't lose in the civil war, but not enough for them to hail an overall victory, the Post cited the officials as saying.Such restraints on the agency's authorities stem from the US desire to see a political resolution in Syria, which requires a stalemate among opposition rebel groups, the report said.CONTINUED: http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Rep...-forces-327751
    Some hundreds at month? Iranian NDF trainers must be laughing out loud at the news.Only thing that will happen is that they would be the next ones on the list of the republican guard as soon as they would end to mop up Damascus.

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    Christian hostel helped by Syria rebels

    ALEPPO, SYRIA (AFP) – As social media abound with horror stories of jihadists murdering minorities in Syria, a group of elderly Christians in Aleppo and the rebels who care for them portray a different reality.

    They object to attempts, including by President Bashar al-Assad, to portray everyone fighting to overthrow the regime as jihadists seeking to eradicate anyone who is not an ultra-conservative Sunni Muslim.

    Once Syria's commercial capital, the northern city of Aleppo is said to have had a Christian community of 20-30 percent, well over double the nationwide figure.

    Today, only a small number remains, as people have fled the brutal fighting which has engulfed the city for more than a year.

    Six of them live in Mar Elias House, a church hostel for the indigent in the Old City that was founded in 1863, exposed daily to the sounds of fighting only metres away as government forces seek to dislodge rebels who control the area.

    Theirs are memories of a time in Syria when Christians and Muslims lived peacefully side by side, and they refuse to believe they are doomed to fall victim to sectarian violence.

    The rebels protecting them, devout Muslims to the man, feel the same way.

    "A lot of people hear news about how the Islamists are all from Al-Qaeda and are pursuing Christians or Alawites," an offshoot of Shiite Islam to which Assad belongs, said one hostel resident, Georgette Juri, aged 71.

    Not so, she protests.

    The hostel is under the protection of the rebel Free Syrian Army (FSA) and a brigade of Islamist fighters, Liwa al-Tawid.
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/09...-syria-rebels/

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalerab View Post
    Christian hostel helped by Syria rebels

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/09...-syria-rebels/
    Yes, but until when ? Other groups that could have insane ones could attack them. They're just a fringe of guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TG211 View Post
    Yes, but until when ? Other groups that could have insane ones could attack them. They're just a fringe of guys.
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/09...-syria-rebels/

    The sad thing is that this is considered as news, something that deserves an article. Christians are Arabs and Syrians, natives in Aleppo and this story should not be an exception... but it unfortunately is.

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    This is from Vice journalist who have been embed with YPG for 2 weeks and was on the frontline

    aris roussinos ‏@arisroussinos 15h
    @ajaltamimi 7) YPG showed us where Turks removed border wire prior to Alouk offensive. No wire, completely open. Few miles E of Ras al Ain.
    aris roussinos ‏@arisroussinos 15h
    @ajaltamimi Posn overlooked by large Turkish base. Alouk fighting bloody and difficult, deep within YPG lines.
    aris roussinos ‏@arisroussinos 15h
    @ajaltamimi see last tweets. border fence wide open. When YPG shelled Tel Halaf, watched Turkish ambulances rush over & laughed.
    Just to point out - Alouk was attacked by ISIS. Tal Halaf is main staging ground for attacks on YPG in Jazira region of ISIS. From what he says it seems that Erdogan is actively using AQ (not just AQdoid group, or salafi group, or wahabi group but crystal clear AQ) as proxies for fighting with PYD.

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    Syria rebel groups tell Qaeda to quit border town

    AFP - Six of the most powerful rebel factions in Syria issued a joint statement on Thursday telling an Al-Qaeda front group to withdraw from the northern town of Azaz bordering Turkey.

    In a separate statement, rebels in central Syria also called on the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) to leave Homs province.

    The statements came amid fresh clashes between ISIL militants and the mainstream rebel Northern Storm brigade in Azaz.

    Hours before the statement by the six rebel groups was made public, hundreds of ISIL fighters were advancing towards the border post with Turkey near Azaz.

    Major rebel groups Ahrar al-Sham, Liwa al-Tawhid and Jaysh al-Islam all signed the statement urging "our brothers in ISIL to withdraw their troops and vehicles to their main headquarters immediately".

    The statement also called for "an immediate ceasefire" between ISIL and the Northern Storm brigade in Azaz.

    It said both ISIL and the Northern Storm had to "resort immediately to the Islamic court, which will remain in session in Aleppo for 48 hours", to settle their differences.

    The other three signatories to the statement were Suqur al-Sham, the Furqan brigades and Liwa al-Haq.
    Meanwhile, in central Syria, the rebel Military Council in Rastan in Homs issued its own statement calling on ISIL to withdraw from the north of the battle-worn province.

    The Military Council comprises several mainstream rebel groups.
    http://www.france24.com/en/20131003-...it-border-town

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