Reply With QuoteI know but the missile can be different.Originally Posted by Camera
You couldn't keep such an information safe.
It does not matter if there are thousands or more, this kind of information is not published.
I know but the missile can be different.
You couldn't keep such an information safe.
Oh please, we've been told so many times already about "serious turning points" in this war, be it in favor of FSA or Assad's. And it is known damn well why Cameron and Kerry came to russia -the S 300 deal and peace conference ahead. No need for usual conspiracy
Now you are talking out your rear end, not published? The presence of non-Russian trainees at Russia's military academies are well known and photos exist of them which you can find in the Russian Photos thread.
There are trainees from Mali, Vietnam, ect.
If it is so, they should come at some point if this weapon is to be delivered to Syria.
If this perspective was not serious, there's no reason for IAF chief to mention the S-300, especially after Netanyahu's meeting with Putin.
Then it depends on where their locations were and how which exact variant of their missiles they have (there is a difference between missile and launcher, so don't say "Buk M2" cause it makes no sense).
As well, it is said against cruise missiles and percision guided munitions, then how come Tor is usually an offset system to protect it? That would be simply overlaping abilities and making it way too expensive. Chances against a PGM I bet is something along the low %.
Then it comes down to location and if they were prepared or not.
There is a thing called propaganda and maybe even the beliefe that to ponder to the people. OH NOES, S-300! We must strike them now! Doesn't mean that it is true. And seeing as there is no absolute evidence of it, I tend to stay that way. I am sorry Camera, but even if the politician is Jewish living in Israel, the country you love, doesn't mean they don't lie.
If these missiles were not positioned to protect Assad's Palace and the lifeline to his regime - the Damascus International Airport - through which the Iranian weapons are supplied, I don't see what else of interest they would protect.
Dunno. But it is odd that the Pantsir was close enough to take down a Turkish Jet. Location location.
I do wonder what air defense systems they do have protecting these areas. It is real odd you never hear anything of it other than one taking down a jet (supposedly) and one packed up and being transported, then getting blown up. Is Assad's palace his lifeline? I mean, it is an obvious target and has been struck more than once, no?
Even then, if Buk system is near the Palace, it would not have been able to take down the missile, but should be able to take down the plane. Seeing as how we hear nothing about launches or avoidance from guided munitions towards the plane (usually a good PR score for the Airforce) then I wonder where they are placed and if they are even opperational?
The IAF chief is not a politician and there's no way he would lie in a public discourse on such topic.
Why is that occasionally this discussion comes up? Didn't you guys discuss on several occasions yet? If you feel the necessity, please open your own thread.
So where is the evidence other than word of mouth of the system? Did he release anything or is he just full of ****?
IAF chief didn't mention the S-300. He said that "Assad's regime invested a lot to get the most advanced AA systems they could buy". He didn't say S-300.
His lifeline is not his palace but the airfield through which the Iranian weapons are supplied to him. And no, his palace was never a target of an attack.
The attack was near the palace, just on the other side of the road.Even then, if Buk system is near the Palace, it would not have been able to take down the missile, but should be able to take down the plane. Seeing as how we hear nothing about launches or avoidance from guided munitions towards the plane (usually a good PR score for the Airforce) then I wonder where they are placed and if they are even opperational?
If the palace was not protected, nor the warehouses of Assad's strategic weapons (Scuds), nor the Damascus airport, there's really nothing else of greater importance to protect.
OK, so was there any word on the air defense systems in the area tracking or potentially trying to make a strike at Israel? Or did they strike it from afar (around 100KM)?
Yes, I too would assume so. But until we get actual information, it is pure speculation. Staking claim to this or that just shows our ignorance until the truth comes out.The attack was near the palace, just on the other side of the road.
If the palace was not protected, nor the warehouses of Assad's strategic weapons (Scuds), nor the Damascus airport, there's really nothing else of greater importance to protect.
Reportedly, he did.
JPost:
Eshel said that the "the Assad regime has invested much to achieve the best air defenses that it could buy," including the SA-17, SA-22, SA-24, and the S-300.
Times of Israel:
Speaking at a conference in Herzliya, Eshel said that aerial superiority was the key to victory in such a war, and that swift triumph on the field would be of supreme strategic importance. That was why, he said, the Assad regime understood had spent billions of dollars on anti-aircraft missiles, including advanced S-300 batteries due to arrive from Russia.
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