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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry James View Post
    0% chance airdrops and airstrikes happened without Turkey giving an Ok the US needs Turkey to much to risk doing this solo.
    If there would be Turkish approval, US would simply **** the weapons through border crossing, would not have any need for air-dropping. Btw PYD has called for Assad overthrow for years now. They have status quo in Hasakah and Qamishlo, but they clashed dozen times, killing scores in the process.

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    Who ever thought that US would at some point supply weaponry to an organization which is listed by one of NATO's members as a 'terrorist organization'. The way the Kurds have behaved, diplomatically, is incredible. With the Turks effectively sealing the border, denying them fresh supplies of weaponries and manpower, this event is definitely going to be one of the most significant turning points throughout the whole conflict. Seems like there is a bright future ahead for the Kurds in Syria, despite the current situation they are facing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalerab View Post
    If there would be Turkish approval, US would simply **** the weapons through border crossing, would not have any need for air-dropping. Btw PYD has called for Assad overthrow for years now. They have status quo in Hasakah and Qamishlo, but they clashed dozen times, killing scores in the process.
    Airdrops can be reduced to (America's work) border crossing would be quite politically damaging to Erdogan (Turkey) if known. Is PYD defacto in the FSA now because of this? Most sources I have come across state that the YPG has deep links with Assad and many Kurds on this forum have stated that the YPG fighting Assad is not possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surenas View Post
    Who ever thought that US would at some point supply weaponry to an organization which is listed by one of NATO's members as a 'terrorist organization'. The way the Kurds have behaved, diplomatically, is incredible. With the Turks effectively sealing the border, denying them fresh supplies of weaponries and manpower, this event is definitely going to be one of the most significant turning points throughout the whole conflict. Seems like there is a bright future ahead for the Kurds in Syria, despite the current situation they are facing.
    If Salih Muslim is as cunning as Barzani, the whole damn thing was planned 6 months ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry James View Post
    Airdrops can be reduced to (America's work) border crossing would be quite politically damaging to Erdogan (Turkey) if known.
    Erdogan basically demanded YPG to join the FSA and US to establish a no-fly and buffer zone over Syria before assisting the Kurds. I doubt both the Kurds and the US have given in to Turkey's conditions for support, which would mean that either the Turks have backed down from these demands or the US simply ignores Erdogan over this event. Either way, its a political victory for PYD.

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    U.S. Airdrops Weapons, Supplies to Besieged Syrian Kurds

    WASHINGTON—The U.S. dropped weapons, ammunition and medical supplies to Syrian Kurds fighting Islamic State extremists in the embattled city of Kobani, U.S. officials said Sunday.

    Three U.S. C-130 cargo planes began dropping the weapons and supplies, provided by Kurdish authorities in Iraq, on Sunday, the officials said. Over several hours, the U.S. dropped 27 bundles of small arms, ammunition and supplies.

    The mission marks a deeper U.S. involvement in the conflict and comes over the objections of U.S. ally Turkey, which strongly opposes arming the Syrian Kurds.

    The U.S. has conducted some 135 airstrikes in the area of Kobani, itself a main focus of the Islamic State militant offensive. U.S. military officials said they have killed hundreds of fighters and damaged scores of combat equipment.

    U.S. defense officials said earlier Sunday that the U.S. military had prepared options for arming or resupplying the Syrian Kurds, who are fighting to keep the extremist group Islamic State from taking over the city of Kobani.

    Syria’s main Kurdish groups have been pleading for the U.S. to supply heavy weaponry to confront Islamic State, which they believe poses a threat to their community’s existence.

    A senior administration official said the U.S. has emphasized with the Turkish government the urgency with which it views the situation in Kobani. In a telephone call on Saturday, President Barack Obama told Turkish President Reçep Tayyip Erdogan that the U.S. intended to resupply the Kurdish fighters with Iraqi Kurdish arms.
    http://online.wsj.com/articles/u-s-c...ion-1413761080

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalerab View Post
    If there would be Turkish approval, US would simply **** the weapons through border crossing, would not have any need for air-dropping. Btw PYD has called for Assad overthrow for years now. They have status quo in Hasakah and Qamishlo, but they clashed dozen times, killing scores in the process.
    The Kurdo-US policy in Syria has obviously changed in the past couple of months, thanks to the resistance in Kobane, and I see a good outcome if the PYD plays it's cards well, as they seem to be doing atm.
    I think the PYD and the Syrian Kurds should have been much clearer in denouncing Assad and his regime, they defiantly were not in good terms, they never were, but this war is all about the media, you must play it well!
    I hope the supplies from the KRG is what they need!

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    US military aircraft air-dropped weapons, ammunition and medical supplies for Kurdish forces fighting Islamic State militants near the Syrian border town of Kobane on Sunday night, the US Central Command said. In multiple airdrops, US Air Force C-130 aircraft "delivered weapons, ammunition and medical supplies that were provided by Kurdish authorities in Iraq and intended to enable continued resistance against ISIL's attempts to overtake Kobane," it said in a statement, using an acronym to refer to Islamic State.
    The statement said 135 US air strikes near Kobane in recent days, combined with continued resistance against Islamic State on the ground, had slowed the group's advances into the town and killed hundreds of its fighters.
    "However, the security situation in Kobane remains fragile as ISIL continues to threaten the city and Kurdish forces continue to resist," the statement said. It mentioned no new air strikes.
    - http://www.smh.com.au/world/us-airdr...20-118q2n.html


    Seems the US said a big "suck it" to Turkey, especially after they stood by and did nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kordovia View Post
    The Kurdo-US policy in Syria has obviously changed in the past couple of months, thanks to the resistance in Kobane, and I see a good outcome if the PYD plays it's cards well, as they seem to be doing atm.
    I think the PYD and the Syrian Kurds should have been much clearer in denouncing Assad and his regime, they defiantly were not in good terms, they never were, but this war is all about the media, you must play it well!
    I hope the supplies from the KRG is what they need!
    Let us know if you find out what kind of supplies were dropped and what units got them if you can.


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    Seems the US said a big "suck it" to Turkey, especially after they stood by and did nothing.

    Taking in hundreds of thousands of Kurdish refugees isn't doing nothing. They have every right to object to arming groups that are their enemies. We have our own national interests and they have theirs. Turkey is still helping to train and arm rebel groups which is a part of the US strategy.

    Islamic State foiled in attempt to kidnap Syrian rebel leader in Turkey

    A top Syrian rebel commander was shot and wounded in an apparent kidnapping attempt by the Islamic State in a Turkish city, raising questions about Ankara’s readiness to stop jihadists operating on its soil.
    Abu Issa, the leader of Thuwar Raqqa, a Syrian rebel group who has been fighting the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil) in the town of Kobane, was ambushed by Isil extremists in Urfa in neighbouring Turkey.
    Ankara has adopted tighter national security measures in recent months in an attempt to stem the flow of foreign fighters who have used its long border with Syria as a conduit to jihad.
    But the flagrant kidnapping attempt in the southeastern town of Urfa, shows how Isil can still operate inside this Nato country with relative impunity.
    The rebel commander and his son, Ammar, 20, were snatched from the car on Friday afternoon whilst returning home after meeting with Turkish officials in Urfa city centre, his aides told the Telegraph.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...in-Turkey.html
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    The latest Map of Kobane!

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    This just came in, Turkey will allow the Peshmerga to go to Kobane to assist the Kurds over there against the ISers! great news!

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