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    Quote Originally Posted by themacedonian View Post
    “The only thing that would happen if we attacked Israel is that we would lose more land. Israel really has nothing to fear about a free Syria,” he went on.

    So they will not be doing any attacking because of fear of losing not because they do not want to .

    Bad bad choice of words.
    I don't agree with you .. I can say "If Israel (my country) attacks the USA, the only thing that will happen is that we lose land..." ..

    Does that mean I want to attack the USA ? no , there isn't a reason to attack them (or anyone who doesn't want to kill you)..


    Maybe if he said "We're too weak right now to attack Israel, let's wait 'peacefully', grow up an army and only than attack" I would agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    Everything was already said in this post:
    You're really trying too hard. Here's another question for you - what relief will bring back the dead and restore the country to at least pre-crisis level? I dare you to use Libya as an example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TakeIt View Post
    You're really trying too hard. Here's another question for you - what relief will bring back the dead and restore the country to at least pre-crisis level? I dare you to use Libya as an example.
    The dead can not bring back and nothing can restore the country to a pre-crisis level. The referendum empowering Assad until 2028 is a joke. It could takes months, but he is done already.



    Report: 135 dead across Syria

    While foreign powers argue over arming the rebels, dozens of Syrians die in shelling, opposition says

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    A Syrian activist group said Monday that 135 people have been killed across the country, including 64 who died while fleeing an embattled area in the central city of Homs.

    CONTINUED: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...195749,00.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    Everything was already said in this post:
    Everything was said in this post as well:

    "We can't underestimate that a Syrian ruler has to feed his people, has to provide goods for his country," Austrian Foreign Minister Michael Spindelegger told Austrian radio before the meeting.

    "If this gets harder and harder to do then it will be harder for him to withstand this internal pressure. I believe we are close to a civil war in Syria and this means the pressure isY growing incredibly on him and his regime."

    The aim is to cause a humanitarian crisis, cause a dependancy of need and come in to provide relief as saviours.
    That is the reason I said enough said. See that is the reason countries have standing armies so not to depend on others. It is a real shame that the army has been used to fire on its own citizens.

    The regime has to go but it would be a mistake for them to allow the country to depend on western relief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themacedonian View Post
    Everything was said in this post as well:

    "We can't underestimate that a Syrian ruler has to feed his people, has to provide goods for his country," Austrian Foreign Minister Michael Spindelegger told Austrian radio before the meeting.

    "If this gets harder and harder to do then it will be harder for him to withstand this internal pressure. I believe we are close to a civil war in Syria and this means the pressure isY growing incredibly on him and his regime."

    The aim is to cause a humanitarian crisis, cause a dependancy of need and come in to provide relief as saviours.
    That is the reason I said enough said. See that is the reason countries have standing armies so not to depend on others. It is a real shame that the army has been used to fire on its own citizens.

    The regime has to go but it would be a mistake for them to allow the country to depend on western relief.
    The West has no economical interests in Syria to make it depended. The aim is to break Assad. The economical hardship to his economy will make more difficult for him to remain in power, will make it difficult for Putin to continue to deliver weapons Assad will never pay, and will make difficult for Teheran to continue to provide him economic assistance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    The dead can not bring back and nothing can restore the country to a pre-crisis level.
    You do understand, that it's foreign "attention" that destroys the country and drew it closer to civil war more than anything, do you?

    The referendum empowering Assad until 2028 is a joke. It could takes months, but he is done already.
    I found more and more similarity between Assad and his rabid antagonists each day.. Too bad..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TakeIt View Post
    You do understand, that it's foreign "attention" that destroys the country and drew it closer to civil war more than anything, do you?

    I found more and more similarity between Assad and his rabid antagonists each day.. Too bad..
    Yeah… That's what Sana news says.
    I don't see how the EU sanctions draw the country closer to civil war.

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    i think the israeli would have more to worry about if assad get toppled

    and the muslim brotherhood takes control of syria

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    I think Iran, and a coming confrontation with them, is a more immediate concern for Israel. Because of iranian influence with Assad, and not least the Hizbollah in Lebanon, i think Israel would be glad to see Assad fall. It could lead to less complications for Israel if/when they attack Iran. In the longer term, a more unified sunni front against Israel in the region, is a new threat.

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    How real can be the article?

    It is in French and the question is obviously for Camera......

    They are talking about 18 French military personnel prisoners in Syria and some kind of negotiations to free them....

    http://www.voltairenet.org/La-France...s-negociations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickchios View Post
    How real can be the article?

    It is in French and the question is obviously for Camera......

    They are talking about 18 French military personnel prisoners in Syria and some kind of negotiations to free them....

    http://www.voltairenet.org/La-France...s-negociations
    There has been a rumour for a while from dubious websites therefore ignored.

    http://counterpsyops.com/2012/02/28/...its-18-agents/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    The West has no economical interests in Syria to make it depended.
    Really?
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...289250392.html
    Direct competitor to Nabucco and Quatar gas projects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickchios View Post
    How real can be the article?

    It is in French and the question is obviously for Camera......

    They are talking about 18 French military personnel prisoners in Syria and some kind of negotiations to free them....

    http://www.voltairenet.org/La-France...s-negociations
    The article seems BS for 3 reasons:

    1. French media didn't said anything about the capture of French citizens in Syria.
    2. There were similar false news 2 weeks ago about 40 Turkish secret agents allegedly captured in Syria. Ankara denied the news.
    3. The author of the article has poor understanding of the legal status of captured agents. He pretends that if France recognizes these Frenchmen were French agents, they will benefit of the status of war POWs and will be treated according to Geneva Convention. (Which is nonsense and completely wrong for secret agents.) If France does not recognize these were her agents, they will be judged as civilians and may be condemned to death, according to the author of the article.

    Pure BS in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    Pure BS in my opinion.
    I wish to be as you said....

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    The wounded Sunday Times photographer Paul Conroy has been evacuated from Syria by activists, and reportedly, 23 activists were killed in the process. Just saw a report on the BBC. That must be quite a burden on the man in the future. I can't imagine the guilt i would feel in his position. Probably unbearable. It was extremely brave of those who evacuated him.

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