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    @Nickchios

    Kind of BS coming prett much according to their news they had 49 MIT (Turkish) Agents too.

    Also any info about Syrian Air Force they became part of clashes cause Syrian Air Force not very very bad.

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    The Syrian Shabiha rape a girl:

    http://www.mako.co.il/news-world/ara...&pId=786102762

    They are crazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterG View Post
    The wounded Sunday Times photographer Paul Conroy has been evacuated from Syria by activists, and reportedly, 23 activists were killed in the process. Just saw a report on the BBC. That must be quite a burden on the man in the future. I can't imagine the guilt i would feel in his position. Probably unbearable. It was extremely brave of those who evacuated him.
    From the news reports he did not want to be evacuated by the Syrian red cross/crescent because he feared he was going to be arrested. I guess this was a better option for him.

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    Pentagon has "detailed plans" on Syria options

    The Pentagon has drawn up "detailed plans" developed to carry out military action against the Syrian regime, if ordered by President Obama, according to a senior U.S. official. The crucial progress in military planning comes after several weeks of initial analysis by the Pentagon of what the official says are a "full range of options."

    The detailed plans for each option include more precise concepts of how a variety of operations could be carried out, as well as estimates of the numbers of personnel, types of units and military equipment and weapons that could potentially be needed.

    The planning behind the scenes comes as the United States continues to pursue diplomatic and political solutions, including trying to pressure Syria's President Basher al-Assad to step aside.Pentagon officials across the board say the use of U.S. troops remains highly problematic in any scenario as long as the violence continues unchecked. But the phrase 'full range of options' means just that, all scenarios are being thought through.

    "There are lots of ideas floating around," the official said. "But all of them require heavy lifting," he said, noting that any use of U.S. troops would be politically and militarily difficult in such a sensitive part of the world. Nonetheless, he said, administration officials and military commanders are still actively considering what to do.

    "People are teeing up options," he said. "We want to understand what is the art of the possible." None of the officials would agree to be identified because of the sensitive nature of the discussions under way inside the administration.

    If Obama were to order any type of action, then additional planning and deployment orders would be some of the next steps.

    The Obama administration is considering whether there is anything the military can or should do to facilitate humanitarian assistance, for example, several officials told CNN.

    As CNN has previously reported, the Pentagon also has looked intensively at what it would have to do to protect Syrian chemical weapons sites if they were left unguarded. One scenario calls for tens of thousands of troops to potentially be used for guarding the installations.

    One of the major concerns is what would happen if Assad somehow was no longer in office, U.S. officials said. They believe other leaders close to him in Syrian military and intelligence agencies would remain in place for some time. But if the entire regime were to collapse, it could force the hand of the United States along with the international community to act to maintain security and protect civilians.

    But unless and until a decision is made by Obama to undertake a military option, action at the moment remains limited mostly to using American satellites overhead to gather intelligence about what is happening on the ground, including the movements of Syrian forces.

    As CNN previously reported, American officials say they are intercepting communications by regime leaders and the Syrian security apparatus, including the military. So far the decision is to not jam those communications because they provide intelligence about the regime's actions.
    http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/0...syria-options/

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    A lot of politics in this topic, but anyone know who actually advancing there? Looking on youtube videos, FSA groups are more active now than army.

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    the fsa lacks armored vehicles and heavy weaponry to make any significant threat to al assads army

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    The Syrian army is advancing on opposition positions in Homs, which has been under artillery bombardment for nearly a month, reports say.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17202311

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    Rebels seem like they're pretty much finished... I don't hear much about any other battle than Homs shelling...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TG211 View Post
    Rebels seem like they're pretty much finished... I don't hear much about any other battle than Homs shelling...
    Because they are not reported as much as others. There are ongoing battles in Idlib province in several towns and in capital of governorate city of Idlib as well, there are regular shooting in Hama, Daraa, Deir ez-Zor, Aleppo governorate (not Aleppo city itself) and other parts.

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    There are so few journalists that we don't have a clear picture.

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    Mere tanks and artillery wont win towns, it's also about manpower and that's a good question. How many of the troops are still fully loyal to Assad&pals?

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    Elite Syrian troops bombard rebel strongholds in Homs as opposition vows to fight on

    AMMAN — Heavy fighting raged near Baba Amro in Homs on Wednesday after elite Syrian troops attacked the rebel-held bastion that has endured 25 days of siege and fierce bombardment, activists said.

    The Farouq Brigade of the Free Syrian Army was trying to hold off the assault led by units of the armoured Fourth Division, which is commanded by Maher al-Assad, the hardline brother of President Bashar al-Assad.

    “Pray for the Free Syrian Army. Do not be miserly in your prayers for them,” the activists said in a statement.

    The rebels have sworn to fight to the last man, according to Ahmed, an activist who said he had just left Baba Amro. He said other opposition areas of Homs were also under attack but gave no details of casualties.

    “We call on all Syrians in other cities to move and do something to lift the pressure off Baba Amro and Homs. They should act quickly,” Ahmed said, contacted via Skype.

    However some activists said leaders of the Farouq Brigade had already left Baba Amro.

    Homs, a symbol of opposition to Assad in a nearly year-long revolt, was without power or telephone links, Ahmed said.

    Several Western journalists were trapped in the besieged Baba Amro district, although Syrian activists escorted British Sunday Times photographer Paul Conroy to safety in nearby Lebanon on Tuesday in a messy escape in which some of his rescuers were killed.

    He had been among several journalists stranded in Baba Amro, where Marie Colvin, a veteran war correspondent also with the Sunday Times, and French photographer Remi Ochlik were killed in a bombardment on Feb. 22. Their bodies remain there.
    http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/02...s-to-fight-on/

    Syria bars UN humanitarian chief from visiting

    UNITED NATIONS -- U.N. humanitarian chief Valerie Amos says Syria has denied her repeated requests to visit the conflict-wracked country.

    U.N. diplomats said Amos went to Beirut to wait for a visa but received no response.

    Amos said in a statement Wednesday that she is "deeply disappointed" that Syria turned down her requests to meet officials at the highest level "to discuss the humanitarian situation and the need for unhindered access to the people affected by the violence."

    She said given the rapidly deteriorating humanitarian situation, improved access is "a matter of the highest priority."

    Amos backed calls for a daily pause in hostilities to evacuate the wounded and deliver food and medicine.
    http://www.sacbee.com/2012/02/29/430...ian-chief.html

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    Leader of SNC says he is open to work with Hezbollah if Hezbollah stops interfering in Syria's uprising: http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=259894

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    Heavy fighting raged near Baba Amro in Homs on Wednesday after elite Syrian troops attacked the rebel-held bastion that has endured 25 days of siege and fierce bombardment, activists said.
    "Pray for the Free Syrian Army. Do not be miserly in your prayers for them," opponents of President Bashar al-Assad said in a statement, as diplomats spoke of his brother's feared 4th Armoured Division mounting a drive to "finish off" the rebels. (*******)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jokuvaan View Post
    Mere tanks and artillery wont win towns, it's also about manpower and that's a good question. How many of the troops are still fully loyal to Assad&pals?
    i spoke with some girl whose brother is in the syrian army and she said that only about 10% of the army defected

    a good question is how many fighters from the fsa are foreign

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