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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiago1337 View Post
    i spoke with some girl whose brother is in the syrian army and she said that only about 10% of the army defected

    a good question is how many fighters from the fsa are foreign
    10 percent is 30,000 soldiers. Besides, no one but higher echelons of Syrian army have exact numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiago1337 View Post
    i spoke with some girl whose brother is in the syrian army and she said that only about 10% of the army defected

    a good question is how many fighters from the fsa are foreign
    The chances are not many foreign. I have read numbers of up to 6000 defected troops joining the FSA. Mostly are former soldiers (conscription army produces many trained citizens).

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    Most people would know about their local garizon so a guy would say 10% from our barracks are defected so it is hard to tell.

    From past history defections in the Yugoslav army were simply guys that did not want to fight but not really join the opposing side. My two neighbours their fathers picked them from Belgrade as they jumped the fence and brought them to Macedonia.
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    Leading Syrian rebel factions end dispute

    Syrian rebel leaders based in Turkey have settled an argument within their ranks about the overall direction of their fight against the regime, a rebel officer says, expressing hope that the agreement will lead to stronger supply lines for the rebellion.

    Captain Ayham al-Kurdy, 30, an officer of the Free Syrian Army, confirmed rumours that opposition leaders met at a refugee camp last week to talk about a simmering dispute between the two most prominent Syrian defectors.

    Resolving such arguments is key to the FSA's ability to serve as a conduit for support to the rebels, if international donors start making large contributions.

    Colonel Riad al-Asaad, who founded the FSA last summer, wanted to focus external support on rebel brigades in northern Syria, in a strategic bid to carve out an enclave of control in a border province.

    His rival, a recent defector named General Mustafa Sheikh, argued in favour of backing the rebels across the country, wherever the uprising has greatest strength.

    Rebel officers decided that the general’s strategy was better than the colonel’s plan for a northern front, Mr. al-Kurdy said. The young captain did not attend the planning session, but said his superiors informed him of the decision.

    “I’m happy about this plan,” said Mr. al-Kurdy, who serves as an officer with the Hama Martyrs Brigade, a rebel group in central Syria.

    Public disputes between opposition leaders made some of his former colleagues in the Syrian military feel hesitant about defecting, he added.

    “Now you will see more officers quitting the fight against us,” Captain al-Kurdy said.

    The Free Syrian Army has limited resources to distribute; most of its direct support for the rebellion consists of modest cash donations to rebels on the front lines. That may change in the coming weeks, however, as Gulf states and other international donors consider funnelling aid to the rebels through the FSA.
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ontent=2350649

    This is second report from FSA which says that they are planning to take control of Idlib governorate and thus opening supply line from Turkey. I guess that explaines recent attack and capture of border city of Azaz. Now, what would Turkish government done in such situation?

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    More would defect if there is a non fly zone. Entire battalions or brigade can not defect without becoming an easy prey for the AF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themacedonian View Post
    Most people would know about their local garizon so a guy would say 10% from our barracks are defected so it is hard to tell.

    From past history defections in the Yugoslav army were simply guys that did not want to fight but not really join the opposing side. My two neighbours their fathers picked them from Belgrade as they jumped the fence and brought them to Macedonia.
    Syrian army has a lot of military bases and barracks, some soldiers defected from them, some never returned to service and rather took their families to Jordan/Lebanon/Turkey, other defected while deployed on battlefield. Soldiers thus have restricted access to informations, aside of what their superiors tell them and what they learn while off-duty. I doubt that someone but higher officers could tell how many guys from which barracks have defected or never came back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalerab View Post
    Syrian army has a lot of military bases and barracks, some soldiers defecting from them, some never returned to service and rather took their families to Jordan/Lebanon/Turkey, other defected while deployed on battlefield. Soldiers thus have restricted access to informations, aside of what their superiors tell them and what they learn while off-duty. I doubt that someone but higher officers could tell how many guys from which barracks have defected or never came back.
    That is pretty much my understanding of it. Yugoslavia is a good example. Macedonians (similar to kurdish) just left did not fight in Croatia. Local croatians left and joined the territorial decence.

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    The Syrian rebel force fighting government troops in the besieged city of Homs says most of its fighters have left the Baba Amr district in a "tactical" withdrawal.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17223472

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    More would defect if there is a non fly zone. Entire battalions or brigade can not defect without becoming an easy prey for the AF.
    strange that the assad government isnt using planes and helicopters to completely level cities that are under rebel control

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    before the weekend is over we'll have managed to talk that particular branch of the arab spring into the grave.
    it's done.

    im sure there'll be alot of gnashed teeth and fingerpointing throughout March.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiago1337 View Post
    strange that the assad government isnt using planes and helicopters to completely level cities that are under rebel control
    Artillery does the job faster and cheaper.

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    - And the media impact is perhaps a factor when it comes to bombing with aircraft, there could be an international outcry for a no-fly zone.

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    Deadly fight between insurgents and army near the Israeli border: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...197352,00.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeMonolith View Post
    before the weekend is over we'll have managed to talk that particular branch of the arab spring into the grave.
    it's done.

    im sure there'll be alot of gnashed teeth and fingerpointing throughout March.
    What is done? This thing we go on for the rest of this year at least. A rather simple conclusion.

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