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    the only way to get some international involvement would if if it gets much worse than it already is... but then again this might become a new reason to stay away since it might be another case of somalia trauma.

    also you can only act in so many arab countries before some people over there call this a new crusade against muslims etc..

    also a difference is that - no matter how legitimate it is - in Lybia there is a rebel government which asked for help. so far we do not have anything like this in Syria

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herman the German View Post
    Assad gone would be a good thing, even for the Israelis. See how the crowd in Libya cheers for the USA and Europe, why shouldn't we do the same in Syria?
    The crowd in Libya accused Qaddafi of being an evil zionist, a puppet of Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGXL836 View Post
    Lebanon? Are you kidding?
    Yeah, I know about Hezbollah but majority in parliament is held by March 14 alliance which former PM was assassinated by Syria. I admit that my knowledge about Lebanese government and electoral process goes only so far, but I know that Lebanese-Syrian relations are tricky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalerab View Post
    Yeah, I know about Hezbollah but majority in parliament is held by March 14 alliance which former PM was assassinated by Syria. I admit that my knowledge about Lebanese government and electoral process goes only so far, but I know that Lebanese-Syrian relations are tricky.
    Even if the Lebanese government was a 100% democratic, anti-Syrian, human-rights-lovin' e.t.c, the Lebanese army has nothing stop Assad with or without UN support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGXL836 View Post
    The crowd in Libya accused Qaddafi of being an evil zionist, a puppet of Israel.
    Sure, some people in the streets might think that way. However Im quite sure that whoever aids the rebellions will have a good stance with the future government once the rebellion succeeds.
    A once in a lifetime chance in the Arab world. Who do you think will get all the future contracts in Lybia? Surley not the Chinese or Russians...
    Why not do the same with Syria?

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    The Lebanese army cannot ensure total control over Lebanese territory,let alone intervene in Syria.If there was any interest in overthrowing Assad by the neighbourhood we would have witnessed more direct action by now.

    At this stage any direct international intervention will follow an alternation in the status on the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herman the German View Post
    Surley not the Chinese or Russians...
    When Uncle Sam away, who's gonna help you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herman the German View Post
    Surley not the Chinese or Russians...
    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_UA View Post
    When Uncle Sam away, who's gonna help you?
    Surley not the Chinese or Russians...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herman the German View Post
    Sure, some people in the streets might think that way. However Im quite sure that whoever aids the rebellions will have a good stance with the future government once the rebellion succeeds.
    A once in a lifetime chance in the Arab world. Who do you think will get all the future contracts in Lybia? Surley not the Chinese or Russians...
    Why not do the same with Syria?
    US aided the Iraqi rebels against Saddam Hussein, however the Iraqis still hate Israel.

    No matter how this crowd cheers for the USA and Europe, this crowd will keep hating not China nor Russia, but Israel.

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    Well, European NATO still have some capacities to offer if memberstates could agree to use it.. Luftwaffe to name one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGXL836 View Post
    US aided the Iraqi rebels against Saddam Hussein, however the Iraqis still hate Israel.
    ...but their government would never attack Israel as Saddam did. The new Iraq plays along "our" rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herman the German View Post
    ...but their government would never attack Israel as Saddam did. The new Iraq plays along "our" rules.
    Yes, as long as "you" keep control on it.

    Assad is a SOB, but if the Syrian people will get rid of him, with or without foreign support, an Al-Qaeda / Muslim Brotherhood state could emerge, unless somebody with constant presence on Syrian soil makes sure it will never happen.

    Israel has no intention to take control of Syria if Assad is gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGXL836 View Post
    Yes, as long as "you" keep control on it.

    Assad is a SOB, but if the Syrian people will get rid of him, with or without foreign support, an Al-Qaeda / Muslim Brotherhood state could emerge, unless somebody with constant presence on Syrian soil makes sure it will never happen.
    Or go the other way and break relations with the terroristgroups in the region.. it's hard to know.

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    It seems that Herman the German either wishes for new colonizing of the region or for terror over it. But what he certainly wishes for is for more dead European and US soldiers as they will certainly die if NATO would have to intervene in Syria and every single country in region. Think for what you wish for a moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGXL836 View Post
    Yes, as long as "you" keep control on it.

    Assad is a SOB, but if the Syrian people will get rid of him, with or without foreign support, an Al-Qaeda / Muslim Brotherhood state could emerge, unless somebody with constant presence on Syrian soil makes sure it will never happen.

    Israel has no intention to take control of Syria if Assad is gone.
    The worry here, is if the regime does get more bloody, the probability of al qaeda joining the mix increases. BTW- MB are poles apart from the salafism of AQ.

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