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    That's inspiring. I hope the same can be said for the majority of the Syrian opposition. The videos of the Christian women uniting with the Sunni's in protests was also pretty cool. They were evening defending one of their churches.

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    3/4 of the weapons not working? But what do government soldiers use for terrible massive shellings of innocent civilians then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by [64]Lynx View Post
    3/4 of the weapons not working? But what do government soldiers use for terrible massive shellings of innocent civilians then?
    Why don't you go watch some RT or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gresh View Post
    Why don't you go watch some RT or something?
    Why don't you answer him? He makes a good point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sepheronx View Post
    Why don't you answer him? He makes a good point.
    You can't believe everything you hear. Bunch of BS coming from both sides, and I doubt all the rebels have reliable information. I highly doubt that 3/4's of their weapons don't work.

    This is from a guy who asked why there are no videos from the Syrian Army's "side" of things. He just asks ridiculous questions that he already knows the answer to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gresh View Post
    You can't believe everything you hear. Bunch of BS coming from both sides, and I doubt all the rebels have reliable information. I highly doubt that 3/4's of their weapons don't work.

    This is from a guy who asked why there are no videos from the Syrian Army's "side" of things. He just asks ridiculous questions that he already knows the answer to.
    Sometimes questions need to be asked. And it should be a good idea to answer questions too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sepheronx View Post
    Sometimes questions need to be asked. And it should be a good idea to answer questions too.
    I agree questions need to be asked. What bugs me is it seems like most of his questions are the usual "herp derp, bunch of radicals. Assad won the elections so why don't they just lay down their arms derpy derp" kind of questions. It's just stupid, it sounds like an RT clip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sepheronx View Post
    Sometimes questions need to be asked. And it should be a good idea to answer questions too.
    and sometimes they dont. sometimes people on here raise questions simply to poke a finger in the eye of rational individuals.

    what is completely obvious is that we have a fragmented opposition, true. but its also true that syria's assad is a murderer and ought to be slotted in the back of the head. the whitewashing that some of you guys are engaging in is downright disgusting, and had this site been mine, you'd be gone. very fast. arabian leaders have been hiding their butchery behind the "terrorist/al-q" crap for years now because they know it makes everybody shut up for extended periods of time. but somehow i have a very very hard time picturing Homs being nothing more than a bunch of qaeda fighters fiddling around in apartment blocks. sounds like bull**** to me. and to most folks. but its a convenient excuse. hell of a lot smarter than to call it what it is. the extermination of people that dont agree with you. but at this point in time, it's a moot point.. civil war is more or less a given if assad doesnt kill the uprising. the western leaders talked this **** to death, basically.

    and quite frankly.. anyone that quote RT.com automatically kills their own argument. its basically all there is to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gresh View Post
    You can't believe everything you hear. Bunch of BS coming from both sides, and I doubt all the rebels have reliable information. I highly doubt that 3/4's of their weapons don't work.
    This. So, why aren't you doubt when they say about hundreds of innocent people killed by bloody dictator?
    Quote Originally Posted by gresh View Post
    This is from a guy who asked why there are no videos from the Syrian Army's "side" of things. He just asks ridiculous questions that he already knows the answer to.
    Every conflict has two sides. In many cases there is no absolutely right one. So why do you think asking about some photos and videoclips is ridiculous? Because it differs from official point of view of your country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeMonolith View Post
    and sometimes they dont. sometimes people on here raise questions simply to poke a finger in the eye of rational individuals.

    what is completely obvious is that we have a fragmented opposition, true. but its also true that syria's assad is a murderer and ought to be slotted in the back of the head. the whitewashing that some of you guys are engaging in is downright disgusting, and had this site been mine, you'd be gone. very fast.

    and quite frankly.. anyone that quote RT.com automatically kills their own argument. its basically all there is to it.
    Thank you. That's exactly what I think this 64Lynx character is doing.

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    This. So, why aren't you doubt when they say about hundreds of innocent people killed by bloody dictator?

    Because I've seen hours of video footage of it, genius.

    64Lynx:
    Every conflict has two sides. In many cases there is no absolutely right one. So why do you think asking about some photos and videoclips is ridiculous? Because it differs from official point of view of your country?
    Yeah, and this side doesn't. Wanna know why? Because Assad's regime censors the truth and his state run television is nothing but a propaganda department.

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    http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/0...ime/?hpt=hp_t1

    By Barbara Starr and Jamie Crawford
    After weeks of collecting intelligence on Syria and watching the attacks by the forces loyal to Bashar al-Assad, the U.S. sees "no fracturing" of the Syrian regime and assesses al-Assad could remain in power for some time to come if the situation does not change, according to a senior U.S. official.

    This the basic conclusion of top officials closely watching Syria, the official said. Unless something changes in the next several days, this will also be the message delivered to the Senate Armed Services Committee next week by Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The hearing, called for Wednesday, is the first public hearing in which both men will be publicly questioned by Congress on the Syrian crisis.

    "The assumption is Assad will continue to persevere until he and other regime leaders are sufficiently suppressed," the official said. While there have been a number of defections, it's not yet at the point of tipping al-Assad's grip on power.
    As for al-Assad, "He's enjoying tactical survival. He can wait it out. He looks to be dug in" the official said. So far, al-Assad is believed to enjoy unhindered movements and communications. But the hope, he said, is that al-Assad is feeling the "strategic weight and pressure of outside critics."


    "We heard no words whatsoever about anything other than this being a conflict between one group of people that has been oppressed by another group of people, and their desire to change that equation," Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tennessee, told Ford. "The people fighting, from what I understand, are fighting for, you know, power and government. They're not fighting under the banner of democracy," he said.

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    ^^^ can I quote CNN??

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    France announces it's closing embassy in Syria
    http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Mid...#axzz1nxsmOF8n

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    am i the only person on here that kinda figured out that most of that **** wasnt about democratic change.. like.. months ago?

    frankly. i dont care what they're fighting for. for all i care they may wanna sit around in tutu's all day. as long as it aint radical extremism. im good. and so far i've seen little to no sign that they wanna make iran 2.5. what amazes me however is how some of you are condemning these people for shooting back after months of sitting around and taking it? im no fan of arabs. i'll admit that. but its a pretty damn human reaction to wanna swing fists if something goes on for too long. and apparently it did. now they're catching 240mm's and other lovely hardware. and this because they slotted a few soldiers that apparently had no problems with killing civilians? yeah okay. slap a bandaid on those hurt feelings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gresh View Post

    Because I've seen hours of video footage of it, genius.
    Really? And I've spoken with the people who live there directly. And they say all that videos are BS.
    Quote Originally Posted by gresh View Post
    Yeah, and this side doesn't. Wanna know why? Because Assad's regime censors the truth and his state run television is nothing but a propaganda department.
    Do you remember the footage of Russian tanks advancing the Gori in the morning of 8th of August, 2008?

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