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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber View Post
    Soviet control?
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    La plupart des Gazelle et des avions de combat soviétiques sont passés sous le contrôle de la division Hélicoptères de l'armée de terre

    Most Gazelle and Soviet fighter jets are now under control of the Land Forces Helicopter Division (Because Air Force was mostly Sunni personnel)

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    Quote Originally Posted by xav View Post
    bad goodle translation for

    La plupart des Gazelle et des avions de combat soviétiques sont passés sous le contrôle de la division Hélicoptères de l'armée de terre

    Most Gazelle and Soviet fighter jets are now under control of the Land Forces Helicopter Division (Because Air Force was mostly Sunni personnel)
    It's allright; i have read the link and I understand French enough to figure it out. Still I dont understand why they say Soviet fighter jets instead of Russian Jets. The SU is dead for more than 20 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber View Post
    It's allright; i have read the link and I understand French enough to figure it out. Still I dont understand why they say Soviet fighter jets instead of Russian Jets. The SU is dead for more than 20 years.
    Probably because most of them are from Soviet Era, designed under Soviet... (except for the new Mig29 of course) ... maybe just because it is "general public" news and they are often not that great with military gear in general

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    Syria activists: Assad's forces kill 31 amid continued clashes

    Mortar rounds hit a demonstration in the district of Bab Houd, killing 10, Homs-based opposition activist says, adding that a nearby mosque was also hit as worshippers were leaving after Friday prayers.


    By [*******#434141]Reuter$

    Syrian government forces killed 31 people around the country on Friday, including 10 demonstrators hit by mortar rounds in Homs, a centre of opposition to President Bashar Assad's rule, activists said.

    Mortar rounds hit a demonstration in the district of Bab Houd, said Homs-based opposition activist Abu Imad, who added that the al-Hanableh mosque in Bab Dreib had also been hit as worshippers were leaving after Friday Muslim prayers.

    Walid Fares, an activist in the Khalidiya district of Homs, said four protests were under way in different parts of the city, and that he had received reports that all had been hit by mortar fire.

    He said he had also heard mortar rounds landing in his neighborhood since early in the morning.
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    Four more generals defect from Syrian army: rebels

    (*******) - Four more high-ranking officers have defected from the Syrian armed forces and joined the year-old uprising against President Bashar al-Assad's rule, two rebel groups said on Thursday.

    The men fled over the past three days to a camp for Syrian army deserters in southern Turkey, according to Lieutenant Khaled al-Hamoud, a spokesman for the Free Syrian Army (FSA). He told ******* by telephone from Turkey the desertions bring to seven the number of brigadier generals who have defected.

    The seven are the highest-ranking officers to abandon Assad, and the rank is the fifth highest in the Syrian armed forces. Mustafa Sheikh was the first brigadier general to announce his defection.

    "We have six brigadier generals who are now in Turkey and another, who has stayed to lead some battalions inside Syria," Hamoud said. "We plan to form an advisory council to absorb these and any other high-ranking defections and this group will plan operations for the FSA."

    A Paris-based spokesman for Sheikh's Supreme Syrian Military Council, Fahad al-Masri, said the four recent defectors were still under the observation of Turkish authorities and their names could not yet be released.

    The rebels are also concerned for the safety of the men's families, who have not left Syria, the two spokesmen said. They said Syrian forces had arrested the family of Brigadier General Faez Amro, who fled to Turkey last month. There have been several reports of defecting officers' relatives being killed.

    The new defections also highlight tensions over the rebel command. Hamoud said the defecting officers would be advisers to the FSA, headed by its founder, Colonel Riad al-Asaad. But the other spokesman, Fahad al-Masri, said they would join Sheikh's Military Council.

    In-fighting could weaken the defectors, now a lightly armed force of 20,000 opposing the government's almost 300,000 strong military equipped with tanks and heavy artillery.

    The uprising in Syria, which began as peaceful protests last March, has turned increasingly bloody as army deserters and armed rebels began using weapons to resist the security forces' crackdown. Assad says foreign-backed militants are behind the violence.

    The senior rebel officer remaining in Syria is Brigadier General Adnan Farzat, who announced his defection in a YouTube video on Tuesday, saying he objected to the intensified shelling in his home town.

    He will operate in the battered Homs province, parts of which have been severely damaged during the Syrian forces' crackdown on centers of rebellion against four decades of Assad family rule.
    http://uk.r*euters.com/article/2012/...82717V20120309

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    Im surprised Assad has been able to keep the armories well guarded so far, weaponry is still a problem for the rebels

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    russia says they dont want to see people taking over the Regime in Syria

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    Syrian forces launch massive assault on Idlib
    Artillery and tanks pound northern opposition stronghold, as UN envoy Kofi Annan meets with Bashar al-Assad in Damascus.
    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middle...628794169.html

    Rebels are going to loose another town quite soon. What's going to be next "stronghold" to fall?
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    "Major" offenive was on Idlib launched twice already. Last one in beginning of February. Didnt help much.

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    Calls for Syria Regime Change Fuel Conflict - Moscow
    Russia on Monday lashed out at the demands for regime change in Syria, support for the opposition, and calls for outside intervention, which only intensify the conflict, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said at the UN on Monday.
    “The ill-considered demands for regime change, unilateral sanctions designed to cause economic difficulties and social tension in the country, pushing the opposition toward confrontation with the government… and even calls for military intervention - all of these are risky recipes that can only lead to the escalation of the conflict,” he said.
    He also warned against any attempts to manipulate the UN Security Council in the context of the “Arab Spring.”
    “No goals - whatever they are - may be achieved by misleading the world community, manipulating the decisions of the UN Security Council,” he said.
    That applies to NATO, he continued, which undertook to ensure a no-fly regime over Libya “but in fact resorted to massive airstrikes.”
    Russia is ready to endorse a UN resolution on Syria only on the basis of the five principles agreed with the Arab League, he said.
    These principles include an end to the violence, setting up monitoring mechanisms, unhindered humanitarian aid supplies to all Syrians, support for UN special envoy Kofi Annan's mission in the country, and non-interference in Syria’s internal affairs.
    http://en.rian.ru/russia/20120312/172118120.html

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    [SIZE=2]Al Jazeera journalists quit channel citing bias on Syria coverage [/SIZE]


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    Russia sending humanitarian aid to Syria
    The Russian Emergency Situations Ministry is sending about 80 tonnes of humanitarian aid to Syria at the government’s order. Two Ilyushin Il-76 jets are flying to Damascus on Monday. The humanitarian aid include tents, blankets, canned fish and meat, sugar, baby food and field kitchen sets, the ministry said. The humanitarian operation is being coordinated with the Russian Foreign Ministry.
    http://rt.com/news/line/2012-03-12/#id27811

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    27 killed across Syria, army bombards Idlib

    BEIRUT: The Syrian army launched a new assault on Monday in the restive northern province of Idlib and the city itself, where residents are suffering "indescribable" humanitarian conditions, activists said.

    The army offensive, which follows a ferocious weekend assault by regime forces against rebel bastions in Idlib, came as 27 people were killed in violence across Syria, according to monitors.

    They comprised 12 civilians, 12 soldiers and three rebels, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

    "The army bombarded the Dbeit district in Idlib city and pounded the Ath-Thawra neighbourhood, where several buildings collapsed," an anti-regime activist in the city told AFP via Skype, giving his name only as Yasser.

    He reported tanks and armoured cars driving around inside the city.

    "The humanitarian situation is indescribable, the residents are totally without water and electricity, and communications have been cut off," he added.

    While the army controls some parts of the city that were wrested from the rebels in an assault on Saturday, others remain in the hands of the insurgents.

    In the Dbeit neighbourhood, 20 bodies were discovered on Sunday night, according to Rami Abdel Rahman, head of the Britian-based Syrian Observatory.

    On Monday, at least eight civilians were killed in Idlib province, the Observatory said, including a child travelling in car targeted by gunfire in Al-Mastum district and another civilian hit by a rocket.

    Two others were shot dead near the town of Maaret al-Numan and in the Jabal al-Zawiya district, the monitoring group added.

    "The government forces have also bombarded the Maaret Masrin area, near Idlib city," Abdel Rahman said.

    Two soldiers also lost their lives in the province.

    In the flashpoint central province of Homs, meanwhile, four civilians were reportedly killed by security force fire in separate incidents.

    And in Hama province, three soldiers were killed by rebels who repulsed an assault on the Qalaat al-Madiq district after it came under heavy machine-gun fire from regime forces.

    Five soldiers were killed in Daraa province, south of the capital, three of them in an attack on their vehicle in Daraa city, cradle of the anti-regime protests that first erupted one year ago.

    And in the nothern province of Raqqa, three rebels and two intelligence officers in the Syrian air force were reportedly killed in Al-Tabka district.

    Scores of people were killed over the weekend when regime forces stormed rebel bastions in Idlib province, with troops pouring into the city itself on Saturday.

    The assault came 10 days after the Homs neighbourhood of Baba Amr was stormed, capping a month-long blitz in which hundreds died.
    http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori...188604/1/.html

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