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    If Syrian soldier defects to FSA only because he want's $$$ is he still a "freedom fighter"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jµµso View Post
    If Syrian soldier defects to FSA only because he want's $$$ is he still a "freedom fighter"?
    who does that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by memoli View Post
    who does that?
    Yes we know Turkey support terrorists for a long time.

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    So how many of the FSA fighters are internal defected soldiers and how many are external fighters. At some point of time last year this time a certain north african leader was accused of using mercenaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themacedonian View Post
    So how many of the FSA fighters are internal defected soldiers and how many are external fighters. At some point of time last year this time a certain north african leader was accused of using mercenaries.
    No no, kafir. There are no mercenaries under the banner of jihad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token White Guy View Post
    No no, kafir. There are no mercenaries under the banner of jihad.
    Some sort of islamic banking compensation? You fight and allah will deliver a sack at your door?

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    Quote Originally Posted by themacedonian View Post
    Some sort of islamic banking compensation? You fight and allah will deliver a sack at your door?
    Allah also grants you the booty after conquest AKA spoils of the previous regime's riches.

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    Well there are real mercenaries there too I'm sure, but not the people are defecting for 'real' reasons as such, whose salary the Saudis are then offering to pay. If anything that's like a regular army. Just funded by a foreign country. So basically it's a foreign army, in Syria :S

    Hope Assad destroys these turncoats. But I also hope that he is wise enough to institute real reform and hold elections in his country afterwards; it's necessary to lower tension in Syria society and to open the road for long-term stability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    'Iran helps Syria ship oil to China'

    By REUTER$
    03/30/2012 12:32

    Oil in Iranian tanker - destined for China - could bring Assad government $80 million despite Western sanctions.



    http://www.jpost.com/International/A...aspx?id=264115

    Ahmadinejad the sanctions breaker!

    Breaking EU sanctions does not pay:

    Malta delists Iranian tanker breaching Syria sanctions


    Maltese Foreign Ministry pulls license of Tehran-owned tanker found in breach of trade embargo imposed on Damascus

    Reuter$

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...211086,00.html


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    Surely, Iran will not find 200$ or more to list it under other flag. I know that Iranian and Syrian companies actively negotiate deals in their trade partners currencies now and in some cases they're successful. All the things will lead to some fianancial losses and temporary problems. But, finally, they'll simply switch off the West from all trade schemes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geolocator View Post
    Surely, Iran will not find 200$ or more to list it under other flag. I know that Iranian and Syrian companies actively negotiate deals in their trade partners currencies now and in some cases they're successful. All the things will lead to some fianancial losses and temporary problems. But, finally, they'll simply switch off the West from all trade schemes.
    I doubt it. Once the sanctions start July 1st, the problems should be tough. At this date, Iranian tanker will not be insured by European companies. All the companies that are insure tankers worldwide are Europeans. Other insurance companies should have difficulties to replace Iranian tankers, because the capital deposit per tanker is $1B for environmental damage if the tanker sinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    I doubt it. Once the sanctions start July 1st, the problems should be tough. At this date, Iranian tanker will not be insured by European companies. All the companies that are insure tankers worldwide are Europeans. Other insurance companies should have difficulties to replace Iranian tankers, because the capital deposit per tanker is $1B for environmental damage if the tanker sinks.
    I'd say that usually insure tankers at the routes - it's a matter of large insurance premium which is of no matter as oil is at 120$ now.
    You forget that other side prepares too. And some influential countries which buy their oil can help with the technical problems. But SA oil can't fill the world demand gap anyway without risky investments, so I don't know who is really punished in the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geolocator View Post
    I'd say that usually insure tankers at the routes - it's a matter of large insurance premium which is of no matter as oil is at 120$ now.
    You forget that other side prepares too. And some influential countries which buy their oil can help with the technical problems. But SA oil can't fill the world demand gap anyway without risky investments, so I don't know who is really punished in the case.
    SA can increase production to fill all Iranian exports:

    Saudi Arabia can increase crude production by as much as 25 percent immediately if needed, the country's oil minister said, seeking to allay the concern over supplies that has driven prices to the highest in three years.

    Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...I901-M17HI.DTL

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    Why would these countries increase output? Wouldn't less supply drive prices up. Things going right in their favor

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    Quote Originally Posted by IconOfEvi View Post
    I havent been able to find any info, but are the Assyrians/Syriacs/Chaldeans also out of the council, or have they opted to stay still? I am aware before the recent Kurd walkout, the walkout was a lot of the secular/minority groups departing due to them deeming half or more of the SNC Islamist.

    The SNC makes a mistake with this - they are not in such a position of strength that they can afford to ill treat any minority group in the rebellion, or discard their ambitions/ideas. While Sunni Arabs are the majority, not only are they split between regime loyalists, but also Islamists, and secularists, and non-participators.
    Assyrians are divided on the issue.. the ones that are against the regime have taken sides with the Kurds (under the KRG influence) under the leadership of ADO (Assyrian Democratic organisation) and under the leadership of Assyrian parties in Iraqi Kurdistan under the influence of the KDP. (Look up Sargis Aghajan)

    There are rumors of Syrian Kurds training in Iraqi Kurdistan for a post-Assad Syria which will most likely fall into some sort of civil/insurgency war (be sure that Iran and Iraq will not allow an easy Sunni-majority rule), this is where it's comfortable for Kurds since they can (as in Iraq) be the neutral force between the two and therefore be supported by literally most countries in the region and the west.

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