Reply With QuoteAnd what is your point?Originally Posted by Flamming_Python
Well; Iranian nuclear scientists aren't assasinating themselves and there are those terror networks & rebels in Iran that could also be getting funded by someone. The Libyan rebels that are streaming to Syria right now; courtesy of the new government there. Clearly Israel or the US are clowning around too; it's not just Syria and Iran that are guilty of trying to use terror groups and/or mercenaries to their advantage.
And what is your point?
This cutie is facing the death penalty for being a member of the opposition. Her name's Yara Shammas and she's a 21 year old poet and Computer Technology graduate. She was arrested on March 7th in Ninar Cafe' in Old City Damascus. Her father is a well known lawyer who represents political prisoners. She was meeting with a British journalist and arrested with 10 of her friends. She got bailed out on April 30th, pending conviction. There was lots of political pressure to get her released.
http://cyberdissidents.org/bin/conte...=1090&q=3&s=24
Twenty one year old Syrian dissident Yara Shammas, arrested on March 7th, was released on bail on April 30, 2012. Shamas has been charged with violating ten articles of the Syrian Penal code, including article 298 which is punishable by death. Article 298 charges the defendant with attempting to incite civil war.
Alawite-Sunni fighting erupts in Lebanon, 3 killed
http://uk.*******.com/article/2012/0...84C09N20120513(*******) - Three people were killed when fighting erupted overnight in the Lebanese city of Tripoli between members of the Alawite minority loyal to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and members of the Sunni majority, witnesses and security officials said.
Rocket-propelled grenades and automatic rifles were used in the fighting in an Alawite enclave and surrounding Sunni neighbourhoods in the port city, 70 km (45 miles) north of Beirut.
"The clashes peaked at dawn. The sound of gunfire is still echoing in the city," a Lebanese security official said.
The Lebanese state news agency said a soldier hit by sniper fire was among those killed.
A statement from the army said two soldiers were also wounded and reinforcements were being sent to the city and that troops were "pursuing armed men to return the situation to normality."
Troops had deployed in an area separating the Alawite enclave from the rest of the city.
A ******* correspondent in the city said sporadic fighting was also taking place between groups of armed Sunnis and the army near a main Sunni district, adding most of Tripoli's main intersections were blocked by burnt tyres.
The fighting underlines how sectarian tensions in Syria can spill over into neighbouring Lebanon.
Lebanon:
The violence was sparked when Lebanese authorities detained a Sunni Muslim cleric, Sheikh Shadi al-Mawlawi, according to local media reports. His followers accused the government of arresting al-Mawlawi because he was helping Syrian refugees in Tripoli, while authorities said he is under investigation for his alleged ties to a terrorist organization.
Syria:
Most of those killed in Syria were civilians, who were shot dead in random fire in the central provinces of Hama and Homs, and the northern province of Idlib, according to the opposition Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.
Clashes between army defectors and troops also erupted in the cities of Daraa, Deir al-Zour and the capital Damascus.
In Daraa, clashes killed five members of the government security forces, while an army defector was killed in an ambush in Deir al-Zour, the observatory reported.
It seems Syrian forces have time to shoot randomly civilians and no time to fight the so called FSA.
My point is that this is a power-struggle between outside powers and the Syrian government; it's not a battle between democracy and dictatorship; it's got nothing to do with the interests of the Syrian people.
This 'observatory for human rights', like several others; appears to be a organisation that was created specifically in this conflict for the purposes of promoting propaganda. But in this case they really don't say anything specific; just that most of the recent casualties in Syria were civilians in certain provinces, who happened to be caught in the crossfire/random fire. Which could just as well be true.
It is an Islamic insurgency supported by external governments. There is not much else that can be said.
Started off with protesting then obviously that did not work so now some freedom loving countries are using Islamic militants to bring "democracy" to Syria.
They shall fight for freedom until the last Syrian is free (or dead).
I would say that the power vacuum opened up by the weakening of the Assad government due to the Arab spring is the cause. You cannot simply discount the wide spread anger against entrenched governments.
Now the situation has a entirely different dynamic of course.
A struggle-power between a terror supporter regime (because this was the content of my post to which you did reply) and which external powers? How is it related to the scientists in Iran?
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Do you suggest Israel and the US are monitoring AQ? I don't get your point…The Libyan rebels that are streaming to Syria right now; courtesy of the new government there. Clearly Israel or the US are clowning around too; it's not just Syria and Iran that are guilty of trying to use terror groups and/or mercenaries to their advantage.
Right...there's nothing Israel wants more than to have AQ on its northern border armed with chemical weapons.
Its because clearly israel or the US are clowning around
Initially, there wasn't much of a power Vacuum to begin with, KSA and the Sunni gulf states facilitated and sustained and the Sunni Islamic uprising. The dynamics hasn't changed much imo, KSA sent their folks into Bahrain to stamp down the protest while fueling the protest Syria.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...a4bb4fc82f.8f1
DAMASCUS — Fierce clashes between regime forces and armed rebels in central Syria Monday killed 23 Syrian soldiers and wounded dozens, a watchdog said, as the EU slapped fresh sanctions on the Damascus regime.
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said three troop carriers were destroyed in the clashes that began at dawn on the outskirts of Rastan, a city located in restive Homs province.
Looks like after the ceasefire more soldiers die than civilians.
Because the FSA conducted a successful ambush? How do you figure? I'm not denying that a lot more government forces have been killed lately, I just haven't seen any reliable numbers. Seems like a lot of the Syrian Army deaths lately have been attributed to IED's planted by Al-Nusra. This is actually the first (real) FSA ambush in a while that's been this successful. The FSA doesn't have the bomb-making expertise that the more radical groups there do. Those soldiers were killed after they shelled the area with tanks and then drove into crowded streets with a tank, BMP and truck. They got mobbed by a few FSA fighters and a crowd of pissed off locals.
I keep track of the civilian deaths around Syria. The numbers from the past week or so look like this, going backward from today: 29,12, 16,32,18,23, 11, 27, 37..I remember a month ago when the average was about 50 civilian deaths per day. There's a page I check with daily obituary's.
This young man was shot in the back of the head while fleeing from a funeral that got fired on by the Army. He wasn't armed or anything, just running for his life. I posted the video yesterday:
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