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    Quote Originally Posted by hattusili View Post
    I wonder also, has there been any change in the last three months?
    Lots more weapons have flowed to the opposition. The FSA has Al-Nusra as a rival now. They're some pretty serious jihadi's and they don't like each other. Al-Nusra thinks they're beggars for associating with the West. The UN observers have witnessed protesters being cut down by machine gun fire and nearly become victims themselves countless times. There's lots of fighting, protests and sabotage of infrastructure in Damascus. Syrian government casualties and loss of armor have increased. There's a report that 200 men in Qutayfah defected from the Syrian Army. At least 32 civilians killed today. A mother with 5 kids were kidnapped and murdered in Hama and the Syrian Army has been attacking Idlib with helicopter gunships.



    Google map with video of today's protests:http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=...51%2C10.821533

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    Syrian rebels tried to kill Assad's top aides, Israeli officials confirm

    Information shows that Syrian President Bashar Assad's brother-in-law, Assef Shawkat, and several other senior officials were indeed poisoned, just as the Free Syrian Army claims.


    By Barak Ravid

    Israel has reliable information showing that despite Syria's official denials, an attempt was made to assassinate several top regime officials four days ago, senior Israeli officials said on Thursday.

    The information shows that Syrian President Bashar Assad's brother-in-law, Assef Shawkat, and several other senior officials were indeed poisoned, just as the Free Syrian Army claims. But prompt medical treatment saved their lives.

    Israel views this as an important milestone in the ongoing revolution: It shows the opposition has penetrated Assad's inner circle, casting doubt on the regime's stability.

    "The Syrian revolt is no longer in faraway cities; it's reached the leaders of the regime," one senior Israeli official said. "An assassination on a similar scale in the future could accelerate the regime's collapse. The opposition has the tools to reach the heads of Assad's regime, and in this case, it's been proven."


    The Israeli officials, who are well-briefed on intelligence from Syria, said the poisoning was carried out by the Free Syrian Army's Al-Sahaba battalion. The targets, aside from Shawkat, were Defense Minister Daoud Rajha; Interior Minister Mohammed al-Shaar; Hassan Turkmani, an aide to the vice president; national security chief Hisham Bakhtiar; and Mohammed Said Bakhtian, national secretary of the Baath Party.

    On May 20, the Free Syrian Army announced that an assassination attempt had been carried out the previous evening by Bakhtian's bodyguard, who was recruited into the Syrian opposition. The bodyguard, it said, poisoned the food served to senior regime officials during a meeting of the "crisis management cell," charged with managing the ongoing fighting in Syria. As a result, the announcement added, the officials were rushed to the hospital during the meeting.

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    Why not just a no fly zone?

    Wouldn't that be more practical then imposing sanctions

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    Quote Originally Posted by machiavelli View Post
    Why not just a no fly zone?

    Wouldn't that be more practical then imposing sanctions
    A no fly zone is an act of war.
    For Libya and Iraq, no fly zone was decided by the UNSC resolutions. For Syria, such resolution is impossible because Russia would veto it.

    The sanctions taken against Syria are not an act of war, but sovereign decisions of the countries that adopted them: the US, EU, Turkey and other nations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    A no fly zone is an act of war.
    For Libya and Iraq, no fly zone was decided by the UNSC resolutions. For Syria, such resolution is impossible because Russia would veto it.

    The sanctions taken against Syria are not an act of war, but sovereign decisions of the countries that adopted them: the US, EU, Turkey and other nations.
    Thanks

    Also how well known is this all nusra group? Could this be a creation of the Assad regime to try to convince the world he's fight Islamic extremists

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    Russia is concerned that the United Kingdom and some other western countries continue making public statements encouraging the Syrian opposition’s armed wing’s violence, rather than their participation in political dialogue. This came in a statement by the Russian Ambassador to London, Alexander Yakovenko.
    http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_05_25/75899909/

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    Quote Originally Posted by machiavelli View Post
    Thanks

    Also how well known is this all nusra group? Could this be a creation of the Assad regime to try to convince the world he's fight Islamic extremists
    No, no one does. They made several videos, posted them on jihadi websites, claimed responsibility for things which happened months before they even came to existence etc.

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    There are reports of fresh demonstrations across Syria following Friday prayers. Observers say at least six civilians have been killed.

    This comes despite a UN brokered ceasefire and follows shelling on Thursday by regime forces of the rebel stronghold of Rastan.

    The town as been attacked now for days by Syrian tanks and troops.

    Our correspondent Paul Wood and cameraman Fred Scott have been back inside Syria and managed to reach the town.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18207180

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    A Russian ship with arms intended for forces loyal to Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad is expected to dock at the Syrian port of Tartus on Saturday, according to a Thursday afternoon report by Al-Arabiya.
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Ne...sh.aspx/240827

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    "Good guys" party is heating up.
    Jordanian Military Intelligence now believes that there are 1500 AQ type "good guys" currently operating inside Syria. http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/0...ran-and-syria/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universal_Soldier View Post
    "Good guys" party is heating up.
    Jordanian Military Intelligence now believes that there are 1500 AQ type "good guys" currently operating inside Syria. http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/0...ran-and-syria/
    Interesting read. I also ignored they were so concerned by the IRGC, Hezbollah and Iran going nuclear.

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    Sanctioned Syria can’t open bank account to pay UN dues

    Ambassador calls on US to solve problem, calls banks’ refusal ‘surreal and illegal’

    May 25, 2012, 11:11 am

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/sanctio...o-pay-un-dues/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    Sanctioned Syria can’t open bank account to pay UN dues

    Ambassador calls on US to solve problem, calls banks’ refusal ‘surreal and illegal’

    May 25, 2012, 11:11 am

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/sanctio...o-pay-un-dues/

    Can´t they open up bank account in other country which did not sanction government? Like Russia, for example?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalerab View Post
    Can´t they open up bank account in other country which did not sanction government? Like Russia, for example?
    US is the host country. UN HQ is in New York.

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