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    Would it be possible for an international intervention to split the country in two? Like drawing a line and saying north of this is a safe zone. Like setting up a refugee camp but geographically bigger. Then the people would have some cites and infrastructure to help themselves and life could go on. Now they have to cross the border to Turkey to be safe.

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    Ah, the "buffer zone" option. It is possible, Turkey supported by NATO has more than enough power to establish it, Erdogan likes to talk about it but it would be seen as an military intervention. No one is crossing that line. Yet.

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    Russia is now actively seeking ways to support the economy of Syria.
    Russia and its partners within the Customs Union, Belarus and Kazakhstan, are close to a free trade agreement with Syria.
    Deputy Russian Prime Minister Alexander Khloponin and Syrian Finance Minister Mohammed al Jililati announced this after emerging from their Moscow talks on Friday.
    http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_05_25/75955579/

    MOSCOW, (SANA) - Meetings of the Syrian-Russian Joint Committee for Scientific, Technical, Commercial and Economic Cooperation started on Tuesday in Moscow.
    The subcommittees are scheduled to hold their meetings at the experts level, while the general session of the Committee is scheduled to convene at the ministerial level on Thursday.
    The discussions will focus on developing the Syrian-Russian relations to serve the interests of both sides in various domains based on the standing partnership relations between the two countries.
    The meetings will also discuss the possibility of the Russian companies to carry out development projects in Syria, particularly in the energy, irrigation, communication, and transport fields, in addition to enhancing trade exchange as to complete the underway talks for Syria's joining the Free Trade Agreement emerged from the Customs Union between Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan.
    http://www.sana.sy/eng/22/2012/05/22/420650.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by hattusili View Post
    Would it be possible for an international intervention to split the country in two? Like drawing a line and saying north of this is a safe zone. Like setting up a refugee camp but geographically bigger. Then the people would have some cites and infrastructure to help themselves and life could go on. Now they have to cross the border to Turkey to be safe.
    It is possible in two ways:

    1/ By UNSC resolution. This is the best way, but Russia won't let it happen for the near future.
    2/ If the flux of refugees continues, Turkey may claim the situation is unsupportable, then enter military forces to establish a safe zone inside Syria.

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    http://www.euronews.com/newswires/15...activists-say/

    French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius condemned the violence as a “massacre”, and said he wanted to arrange a meeting in Paris of the Friends of Syria, a group that brings together Western and Arab countries keen to remove Assad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ISNJH View Post
    http://www.euronews.com/newswires/15...activists-say/

    French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius condemned the violence as a “massacre”, and said he wanted to arrange a meeting in Paris of the Friends of Syria, a group that brings together Western and Arab countries keen to remove Assad.
    It's good that Holland maintains the political line of Sarkozy on this tragical issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    It's good that Holland maintains the political line of Sarkozy on this tragical issue.
    Just talk is all it is.

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    One wonders what else has to happen before somebody steps in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herman the II View Post
    One wonders what else has to happen before somebody steps in?
    Substantial oil reserves being discovered in Syria?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EITAN88 View Post
    Substantial oil reserves being discovered in Syria?
    Would certainly help... Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universal_Soldier View Post
    Just talk is all it is.
    Exactly. So he continues in Sarkozys path.

    Quote Originally Posted by Herman the II View Post
    One wonders what else has to happen before somebody steps in?
    My guess is something at least on level of Srebrenica.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalerab View Post
    Exactly. So he continues in Sarkozys path.



    My guess is something at least on level of Srebrenica.
    Seems like as long as the Syrian's take their sweet time and don't do it all at once, they'll be fine as far as that goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalerab View Post

    My guess is something at least on level of Srebrenica.
    Syria isn't in the EU's backyard so I doubt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universal_Soldier View Post
    Just talk is all it is.
    We just discussed the effect of sanctions, so France and the other European states do more than just talk, but there are objective difficulties:

    - The UNSC is paralyzed despite the efforts that were engaged by French and other countries' diplomacies.
    - The Syrian opposition is still too divided despite the efforts to unite it.

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    Syria: children slaughtered as regime unleashes 18-hour attack on town

    Two UN observers arrived in the central Syrian town of Houla early on Saturday to inspect the aftermath of an 18-hour regime assault, which activists claim has left close to 100 people dead.

    Residents had sent a series of urgent pleas for assistance from midday on Friday as Syrian military positions which had encircled the town for months launched a full-scale assault using heavy weapons and tanks. Activists and rights groups inside Syria claimed that at least 33 of the dead are children.


    Videos uploaded to the internet and purported to be from Houla show many dead and mangled infants. Residents say some victims were killed with knives, while many more died from relentless shelling at that left buildings splintered and homes destroyed in a large residential area near the centre of town.


    In recent days, violence has spiked across restive parts of Syria to levels not seen in many weeks. Friday has repeatedly been marked by a rise in violence as demonstrators use the cover of prayer gatherings to launch large anti-regime protests. However, a mass killing of this scale has not been reported for several months. The toll, if accurate, is the biggest in a single event since UN monitors arrived in April on a much-maligned mission to supervise a peace plan.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...?newsfeed=true

    Syrian forces are going around slitting little kids throats now.

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