Reply With QuoteThey are all saying the same thing (regarding intervention)....just stylistic difference is all. There isn't two sides, at least, in regards to those three folks.Originally Posted by xav
Now Obama will have to pick a side... Clinton/Rice or Panetta.... because ultimately, he is the one to decide
They are all saying the same thing (regarding intervention)....just stylistic difference is all. There isn't two sides, at least, in regards to those three folks.
Clinton did not made a firm statement about an action without an UNSC resolution. Her statements were ambiguous. Rice was more suggestive about the eventuality of such option.
It sounds as US and EU dont really wish for military intervention as it would cost them a lot and may turn into second Iraq. So they are hiding behind Russian/Chinese veto. Biggest act of trolling that Russia/China can do is allow the intervention and push US/EU into conflict they would like to avoid.
Russian Church Is a Strong Voice Opposing Intervention in Syria
MOSCOW — As the West sought to pressure the Kremlin recently to help stop the killing in Syria, diplomats from Damascus were ushered into the heart of one of Russian Orthodoxy’s main shrines.
By ELLEN BARRY
Published: May 31, 2012
Opening an exhibition devoted to Syrian Christianity in a cathedral near the Kremlin, they commiserated with Russian priests and theologians about their shared anxiety: What would happen if Syria’s president, Bashar al-Assad, was forced from power?
It is clear by now that Russia’s government has dug in against outside intervention in Syria, its longtime partner and last firm foothold in the Middle East. Less well known is the position taken by the Russian Orthodox Church, which fears that Christian minorities, many of them Orthodox, will be swept away by a wave of Islamic fundamentalism unleashed by the Arab Spring.
In his warnings, Patriarch Kirill I invokes Bolshevik persecution still fresh in the Russian imagination, writing of “the carcasses of defiled churches still remaining in our country.”
This argument for supporting sitting leaders has reached a peak around Syria, whose minority population of Christians, about 10 percent, has been reluctant to join the Sunni Muslim opposition against Mr. Assad, fearing persecution at those same hands if he were to fall. If the church’s advocacy cannot be said to guide Russia’s policy, it is one of the factors that make compromise with the West so elusive, especially at a time of domestic political uncertainty for the Kremlin.
“Someone once said George Soros was the only American citizen who has his own foreign policy,” said Andrei Zolotov Jr., a leading religion writer and chief editor of Russia Profile. “Well, the Moscow patriarchate is the only Russian entity with its own foreign policy.”
CONTINUED: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/01/wo...ef=global-home
Rice is just doing the usual diplomatic dance, she's hasn't suggested eventual military option outside UNSC; in fact, she's been careful not to. This recent interview says it all.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bes...syria-intv.cnn
^^^
Yes. A military action before US elections is improbable.
More dead:
Gunmen kill 11 state workers in Syria
Regime and opposition blame each other for second execution-style shooting in a week
BEIRUT (AP) — Gunmen killed 11 workers at a state-owned fertilizer factory in a volatile central Syrian province, activists said Friday, the second execution-style shooting reported in Syria in less than a week.
The shooting near the town of Qusair in Homs province occurred Thursday as the workers were on their way to their jobs in a bus that came under fire, said the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.
CONTINUED: http://www.timesofisrael.com/gunmen-...kers-in-syria/
Oh, yes, and Santa is really out there, living at the North Pole..
State workers killed by the army becaaaause??
The article says bus came under fire. It does not say the shooters checked first if the passengers were state workers or unemployed people.State workers killed by the army becaaaause??
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1...%27:-activists
Syrian government forces summarily executed 12 civilians on their way home from work in a fertiliser factory in Qusayr, activists in the central town told AFP by telephone.
"The workers were on a bus when they were forced to stop at a checkpoint on the outskirts of Qusayr" late on Thursday afternoon, said Salim Kabbani of the Local Coordination Committees, which organise protests on the ground.
"Regime forces tied their hands behind their backs and shot them."
Maybe the Syrian state is shooting even the people that work for them.
Sounds legit
yep....Just as legit as the "activists" that are peddling the story.
I won't dismiss anything. It's not a conflict between the regime's forces VS the rebels anymore. Now the conflict is between the regime's forces + the 2 million Allawite minority VS the Sunni majority.
Plus the various proxies and AQ spicing things up for the Islamists.
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