Protests in Syria - Discussion Thread

[ISNJH]

I see I only had wondered on this point because I had seen a few bits online in last few months on chat sites from a few Russian posters saying that the current government stance was only going to weaken current Russian government in the end.

[Hisroyalhighness]

But you must admit that should Russia loose its access that its going to look very bad for the current government

The decision not to block the intervention in Libya and the killing of a valuable partner is the reason why Medvedev lost much of his popularity. Russia knows she is damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. Right she is just trying to soften the impact.

esp since it will also push other countries in the middle east that had in past years started having closer ties with Russia away and back more into the influence of the west.

You forgot another power with its claws in the region, China.

I see I only had wondered on this point because I had seen a few bits online in last few months on chat sites from a few Russian posters saying that the current government stance was only going to weaken current Russian government in the end.

The internet is a medium for many Russians critical of the current administration, but that's certainly a plausible outcome.

[Orocairion]

cause pkk is all saints and just targeted military personell right?

Turkish police officers, teachers, construction workers, engineers, people that moved to eastern parts of Turkey to help build up the cities and villages with a lot of Kurdish people, pkk raiding small villages and killing children as low as 2 months old and newborn to name a few.

when did we support a terrorist organization against Syria prior to 1980-99?

and those "poor alawites" only has themself to thank if they are dying. if they had in the time showed some sumpathy for Turkish civilians and protested against their 'lovely dictator' maybe things would be different.

and just to put it this way, i'm not cheering over civilians that are being killed by assad, i am cheering when their soldiers and their 'poor alawites' die. since it was them that supported pkk..

You mean like Turkey seems to show lots of sympathy whenever the Armenian Genocide is brought up?.

Oh wait...

I won't cry for Russia loosing its hot water harbor. They knew very well what Assad's regime was, its terror record, what it has done in Lebanon, and should not allied with it from the start.
I hope this will serve Russia as a lesson to stop flirting with the worst regimes on Earth.

Until very recently, Sarkozy had no trouble to have pictures of himself with Gaddafi nor to offer Rafales' to Libya.
By the way, remind me, who was helping Saddam build a nuclear reactor back in the 80's?.

[memoli]

You mean like Turkey seems to show lots of sympathy whenever the Armenian Genocide is brought up?.

Oh wait...

what has "Armenian Genocide" got to do with my post?

are you Armenian or what? what is your obsession with bringing in offtopic related "genocide" stories everytime Turkey is mentioned?

[my name again]

there is no such thing as "genocide".

Really?????????

Edit: You edited your post , so it was probably just a mistake.

[Siberian wolf]

I see I only had wondered on this point because I had seen a few bits online in last few months on chat sites from a few Russian posters saying that the current government stance was only going to weaken current Russian government in the end.

This view is a small number of liberals..

[Orocairion]

what has "Armenian Genocide" got to do with my post?

are you Armenian or what? what is your obsession with bringing in offtopic related "genocide" stories everytime Turkey is mentioned?

Since you seem to keep bringing up "what the Syrians did to Turkey and the suffering they caused Turkey"as a reason to justify the sinking of Syria into a civil war and even celebrate it, talking about revenge and other nonsense, with an attitude that seems to imply that Turkey is run by a bunch of saints and charity nuns that would do no harm to anybody at all.

Thus my point with bringing the Armenian Genocide is that Turkey's history is as tainted as that of anybody else you keep pointing fingers at.

[memoli]

Really?????????

Edit: You edited your post , so it was probably just a mistake.

i edited it because i didn't want to start a flame war, but yeah now that you just quoted it. there is no such thing as "genocide" i have stated it before to...

[memoli]

Since you seem to keep bringing up "what the Syrians did to Turkey and the suffering they caused Turkey"as a reason to justify the sinking of Syria into a civil war and even celebrate it, talking about revenge and other nonsense, with an attitude that seems to imply that Turkey is run by a bunch of saints and charity nuns that would do no harm to anybody at all.

Thus my point with bringing the Armenian Genocide is that Turkey's history is as tainted as that of anybody else you keep pointing fingers at.

i never implemented that Turkey is run by saints. i just say they shouldn't bitch when they started the fight by arming pkk for 20 years. they harmed us they can only expect something back.

and bringing in WW1 into discussion is just silly, i talk about a conflict between Syria and Turkey while you bring in something totally different. nothing unusauall by pro-Armenians to bring in stupid accusations either.

i don't justify Syria sinking into civil war, i just say i am happy that they suffer what we suffered. assad brought the civil war upon himself, we didn't. and now he and his alawite dogs cry".

now that you have released your dose of "genocide" accusations, can we move on and stay ontopic instead of diverting it into Armenians and WW1?

[Camera]

Because only russia is doing this. Wake up and smell the coffee.

Russia is not the only one to do this. But contrary to others, does it systematicly.

[Alpha023]

Since you seem to keep bringing up "what the Syrians did to Turkey and the suffering they caused Turkey"as a reason to justify the sinking of Syria into a civil war and even celebrate it, talking about revenge and other nonsense, with an attitude that seems to imply that Turkey is run by a bunch of saints and charity nuns that would do no harm to anybody at all.

Thus my point with bringing the Armenian Genocide is that Turkey's history is as tainted as that of anybody else you keep pointing fingers at.

I suggest you keep your hatred for Turkey out of this thread. What memoli said had nothing to do with Turkey's past. So don't try to start flame wars out of nowhere. With that comment I quoted, you sound like a obsessed little kid who doesn't get what he wants just like a spoiled kid. Memoli just said what Syria did in 80s and 90s created a little version of a civil war in Turkey. Thousands of civilians and soldiers got killed just like now what is happening in Syria. Thats why this civil war in Syria is like a karma thing happening to Assad and his friends.

[Orocairion]

i never implemented that Turkey is run by saints. i just say they shouldn't bitch when they started the fight by arming pkk for 20 years. they harmed us they can only expect something back.
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i don't justify Syria sinking into civil war, i just say i am happy that they suffer what we suffered. assad brought the civil war upon himself, we didn't. and now he and his alawite dogs cry".
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Childish and petty as ****, but not surprising given your age. That said, if you think it will be better for Turkey once Assad is gone, you must have your head far away into lalaland.
And if anyone in the Turkish government shares your moronic attitude, it will only be worse.

Hopefully you won't "bitch" when whatever happens in Syria ends biting Turkey in the ass, as is usually the case with this type of business.

and bringing in WW1 into discussion is just silly, i talk about a conflict between Syria and Turkey while you bring in something totally different. nothing unusauall by pro-Armenians to bring in stupid accusations either.

As usual, you keep missing the point.

[Universals]

I suggest you keep your hatred for Turkey out of this thread. What memoli said had nothing to do with Turkey's past. So don't try to start flame wars out of nowhere. With that comment I quoted, you sound like a obsessed little kid who doesn't get what he wants just like a spoiled kid. Memoli just said what Syria did in 80s and 90s created a little version of a civil war in Turkey. Thousands of civilians and soldiers got killed just like now what is happening in Syria. Thats why this civil war in Syria is like a karma thing happening to Assad and his friends.

please! don't play dumb here, Memoli started it all with his idiotic remarks. If anyone was looking for a flame war, it was him.

[gresh]

I suggest you keep your hatred for Turkey out of this thread. What memoli said had nothing to do with Turkey's past. So don't try to start flame wars out of nowhere. With that comment I quoted, you sound like a obsessed little kid who doesn't get what he wants just like a spoiled kid. Memoli just said what Syria did in 80s and 90s created a little version of a civil war in Turkey. Thousands of civilians and soldiers got killed just like now what is happening in Syria. Thats why this civil war in Syria is like a karma thing happening to Assad and his friends.

Not to mention supporting terrorists in Lebanon, Palestine, Iraq, etc..

But yeah, shut up about Turkey and the Armenian genocide and all that BS.

...back on topic:

Profile: Syria's Abdulbaset Sieda
Activist carries double burden of bolstering Syrian National Council's credibility and reconciling Kurdish grievances.

Kurdish activist Abdulbaset Sieda, who was named on Sunday to lead the opposition Syrian National Council, is known for his integrity, but insiders say he has little political experience and some Syrian Kurds claim he does not represent their interests.

Sieda takes over the exiled dissident coalition at a time of mounting tensions between activists and rebel fighters on the ground inside Syria and the emigres who have been the main point of contact with the outside world.


"We are entering a sensitive phase. The regime is on its last legs," Sieda said a few hours after he was named as the new SNC president.


"The multiplying massacres and shellings show that it is struggling."


Sieda, born in 1956 in Amuda, a mostly Kurdish city in northeastern Syria, is seen as a consensus candidate capable of reconciling the rival factions within the SNC and of broadening its appeal among Syria's myriad of ethnic and religious groups.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middle...023429809.html

[Alpha023]

Childish and petty as ****, but not surprising given your age. That said, if you think it will be better for Turkey once Assad is gone, you must have your head far away into lalaland.
And if anyone in the Turkish government shares your moronic attitude, it will only be worse.

But then again, I don't remember Turkey sinking into a civil war between nutjobs, so I doubt "Your suffering" resembles anything that's happening in Syria at the moment

Hopefully you won't "bitch" when whatever happens in Syria ends biting Turkey in the ass, as is usually the case with this type of business.


As usual, you keep missing the point.

Actually you are the one being a "bitch" here. This whole conflict between PKK and Turkish army is like a civil war. Civilians getting kidnapped or moved away from their homes because of some assholes. This whole civil war in Syria is important to us because in the end we are the ones that are getting effected the most. We have thousands of refugees from the civil war. And probably if there will be any intervention, we will be the ones to do it.

Your hatred for Turkey is so big that it actually effects your way of thinking. Don't let your emotions take control of your reasoning when it comes to writing a comment in here. Please just calm the **** down.