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    Guiz, time for no fly zone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zzez View Post
    Guiz, time for no fly zone?
    Not yet.....

    The dead must reach 333 to have a no fly zone...

    BTW.....RIP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber View Post
    Naive? I think you are confusing Naivete with bitterness and at some degree also hate by my side. I held Europe culture as the base of the world problems, and that pseudo cultural superiority is the main problem of all. They made all these countries drawing maps on the London, Paris offices while smoking "puros" and drinking single malts, they moved slaves and populations, they made colonies and abandoned them afterwards, they made wars with millions of deaths, they use puppets to control third world puppets, they pay bribes, they use corruption and are corrupt. And then they try to held the high moral ground and go telling all how to do this and that, while at the end all what is important is the money and their interests. Morality my ass, its all about ****ing business.

    Do you think I am being naive? check again because I don't have a hair of naivete.

    With all respect, you are describing morals (or the lack thereof), not culture. Sure, one could argue that culture fosters such immorality. But, on a more fundamental level it is a matter of human nature combined with unchecked power. In other words, regardless of the trappings of culture, historically speaking, a technologically superior society will generally exploit a technologically inferior society.

    That said, the political culture -a classical liberal republic based on the rights of the citizen/individual - that emerged out of Europe in the 19th Century is superior to the political culture of traditional Arab societies.

    I agree, however, that the classical liberal model with its emphasis on civil rights cannot be simply transplanted on to other societies.

    I also agree (as you probably already know) that contemporary declarations of moral indignation and judgement are all too often the epitome of hypcorisy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GB_FXST View Post
    With all respect, you are describing morals (or the lack thereof), not culture. Sure, one could argue that culture fosters such immorality. But, on a more fundamental level it is a matter of human nature combined with unchecked power. In other words, regardless of the trappings of culture, historically speaking, a technologically superior society will generally exploit a technologically inferior society.

    That said, the political culture -a classical liberal republic based on the rights of the citizen/individual - that emerged out of Europe in the 19th Century is superior to the political culture of traditional Arab societies.

    I agree, however, that the classical liberal model with its emphasis on civil rights cannot be simply transplanted on to other societies.

    I also agree (as you probably already know) that contemporary declarations of moral indignation and judgement are all too often the epitome of hypcorisy.
    When someone says superior the hair of my neck rise.

    The worse thing is that they do not realize this.

    An European doing the same as an American is aways more classy, superior and civilized, even if such thing is killing people.

    Anyway I maintain my idea that is cultural.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuKaZz View Post
    Anyway in all honesty, I know I shouldn't say that, but I really believe that the Hama-way is the only rational way of dealing with Islamists, destroy them.
    You're damn right! AMEN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoTeMoRe View Post
    Well, without massive defection by the military, Syria could actually challenge any military intervention there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeev View Post
    You're damn right! AMEN.
    Amen to massacre, yeah!

    [Did you also pump your fist in the air while saying that?]

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    In early March, Syrian security forces seized large shipment of weapons, explosives and night-vision goggles in a truck coming from Iraq. However, apparently not all weapons were seized..
    The Syrian TV broadcast pictures showing the weapons, ammunitions and big amounts of money stockpiled by the armed gang inside al-Omari Mosque.
    The pictures showed various types of weapons and ammunitions including hand grenades, machineguns and Kalashnikov rifles.
    Two months ago, the General Supervisor of the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria, Riyad al-Shaqfa, announced the group's return to military action in the country.



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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeWolf View Post
    Why would Assad need Lebanese Shiites? Doesn't he have plenty of loyal Alewites to do the dirty jobs?
    Hmmm....I wouldn't be so sure.

    1226: Al Sununu tweets: "Demonstrations in Homs are a big blow to the Asad regime. Lots of Alawites live in the city and most of them are strong loyalists#Syria"

    1243: In Syria, the BBC's Lina Sinjab says about 100 citizens gathered today in al Qraya town in Sweida governorate, in the south of the country (it's the hometown of Syrian independence leader Sultan Basha al-Atrash). But the would-be demonstrators found a huge crowd of pro-government Bathists had occupied the main square.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yu1980 View Post
    In early March, Syrian security forces seized large shipment of weapons, explosives and night-vision goggles in a truck coming from Iraq. However, apparently not all weapons were seized..
    lie.... those are peace loving pro-democracy protesters who tired of tyranic rules of evil juice dictator Assad!!!

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    If I were a Christian or a member of a religious minority in Syria, I would have a plan "B".
    NATO should also have a plan given that one of its members shares a border and may face an influx of refugees if Syria breaks-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sootan View Post
    Amen to massacre, yeah!

    [Did you also pump your fist in the air while saying that?]
    Massacre? Yeah, islamists deserves to be slaughtered, but maybe you have some propositions to give about the way to deal with them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeev View Post
    Massacre? Yeah, islamists deserves to be slaughtered, but maybe you have some propositions to give about the way to deal with them?
    Hell must be frozen right now for Israelis to support Assad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ordie View Post
    Hell must be frozen right now for Israelis to support Assad.
    Honestly that's not support, but if you're not able to make a choice between baasists and islamic integrists, you have some serious problems.

    If I say that I prefer Flu to AIDS, that doesn't mean that I think that Flu is something positive in a general way.

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