Reply With QuoteGod save them! It is going to ruin their country!Originally Posted by SlowMan
J-18, the Chinese STOVL fighter
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=6301965
Wow, that was fast. When did Chinese steal F-35 blue prints? It didn't take them very long to produce a copy.Is China Developing a VSTOL Fighter?
TAIPEI - China may have test-flown the J-18 Red Eagle vertical short takeoff and landing (VSTOL) fighter earlier this month, if chatter on Chinese-language military blogs is accurate.
China's defense industry is largely opaque and it is difficult to substantiate Internet chatter. However, Chinese-language military blogs reported the first test flight of the stealthy J-20 Black Eagle fighter in January, much to the surprise of the Western media.
Now there are reports emerging of a test flight of the J-18. Tests were supposedly conducted earlier this month and the fighter is similar to the Sukhoi Su-33 carrier-based fighter.
"In 2005, a Chinese aviation industry source told me the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation was considering a F-35B-like program," said Richard Fisher, vice president of the Washington-based International Assessment and Strategy Center. "Given the PLA's naval power projection ambitions, it is probable there is VSTOL or STOVL [short takeoff and vertical landing] fighter program."
God save them! It is going to ruin their country!
Dude, learn to read and quit being a muckraker. Even the part you quoted said:Tests were supposedly conducted earlier this month and the fighter is similar to the Sukhoi Su-33 carrier-based fighter.
It's almost impossible to do STOVL with a Flanker airframe due to weight, even if you stick vertical landing jet engines in the fuselage.
A short-takeoff-and-landing Flanker made possible by canard and TVC I understand, but not vertical landing. Must be a Chinese copy of YAK-141.
The "Su-33" part is a good indicator that some or all of it is massive bull****.
Su-33 is heavy. Very heavy. In fact, a VTOL Su-33 would be the heaviest such operational aircraft by an enormous 250-300% margin (just compare it to Harrier or Yak-38).
Even if you forget the fact a STOVL/VTOL aircraft would imply a complete aerodynamic redesign, the weight alone would make this a practical impossibility.
Well the article says its similar to Su-33. So either that is bs or the STOVL part is bs. Overall the whole article does not sound very reliable.
Maybe they are just talking about J-15 (Chinese Su-33 copy).
http://asian-defence.blogspot.com/20...keoff-and.html
The report said the wings of the jet, similar to Russia's Su-33, a carrier-based multi-role fighter, could be folded, and suspected that it would be installed on China's future aircraft carrier.
that does not mean the jet is like Su-33. I think it would be like Yak-141 (maybe a blueprints purchase) looking at past Chinese projects.
Secret's up China:
Is this it? Don't how reliable the following pic is
http://defenceanalyzist.blogspot.com...e-off-and.html
Isn't that pic an F-35.....
Now how did that get there?Secret's up China:
F-35 , bankrupting one nation after the other
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124027491029837401.html
Of course they deny it...
http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/20...acking_042309/
Remember, don't make accusations against The Middle Kingdom
Chinese copy of Su-33 is J-15, not J-18, nothing like that exists, at least not officialy.
and since whole article is based on "chatter on Chinese-language military blogs" itīs pretty much safe to say that it is BS.
Damn, I was hoping this was real, but had a feeling it would end up fake. Basing the existance of a fighter on "internet chatter" is like determining the standing of international relations on Youtube politics
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