Well the Navy gets around ~ 4.8 trillion roubles as part of SAP 2020 , if they spend 300 billion roubles in ship and submarine building what happens to the remaining 4.5 trillion roubles ? thats a huge sum.
I cant read article now as I am at work, but let me read what it states first (fully) than I will maybe be able to give some sort of better guess. Maybe it is just one order so far? And then they may order another batch of 27 or so ships, etc? I mean, look at the aircraft procurement, it seems to go that way.Originally Posted by AustinJ
Here's a very interesting interview with the commander of the 58th army that won the 08 war.
Link to part 2 also in the article
http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/16875/
It's interesting how he counters the perception of how we fought the war by arguing that it was a well oiled machine, before any reforms got to **** with it.
Last edited by Maximmmm; 04-26-2012 at 03:23 AM.
Here is something on Russian -Indian Hypersonic program
India to Test Own Hypersonic Ramjet
India's Defense Research and Development Organization (DRDO) will hold trials of domestically-developed hypersonic combustion ramjet in 2013, reports PTI referring to DRDO director Vijay Kumar Saraswat. According to him, the propulsion system will be capable to work at speeds six times higher than sound speed. Saraswat declined to give any details of the prospective project.
Presently, India is developing a hypersonic missile capable to accelerate up to six Mach numbers. The project is developed by Russian-Indian joint venture BrahMos. The new ammunition will be based on supersonic cruise missile BrahMos already operated by Indian Army. In its turn, BrahMos missile is based on Russian cruise missile Onyx.
Today, active development works on hypersonic vehicles are held by the US, Russia, and Brazil. In particular, American planemaker Boeing jointly with US Air Force is developing hypersonic missile X-51A Waverider accelerating up to six Mach numbers. Besides, Lockheed Martin designs hypersonic vehicle Falcon HTV-2. In its turn, Brazil is developing missile 14-X also supposed to fly at speeds exceeding six Mach numbers.
As was reported late in Aug 2011, Russia's Tactical Missiles Corporation had started research works on a hypersonic missile project. According to the company's chief designer Boris Obnosov, Russian missile will be capable to fly at speeds 12-13 times as high as sound speed.
Besides, it is considered that the Baranov Aircraft Engine Building Institute is also engaged in development of hypersonic vehicle Igla under Project Holod-2. Its deputy director Valentin Solonin told AviaPORT on Apr 22, 2012 that the institute was researching integration of a ramjet and an airframe.
"We research effective compression, combustion, and expansion processes occurring in hypersonic vehicle's propulsion plant, and consider its integration with the airframe. Also, we actively study thermal states of ramjet and airframe. Since the inside temperature makes 2,600-2,700 degrees Celsius and the flight is quite continuous, there are some problems regarding thermal state", Solonin said.
Wow, Holod-2.
23 ship TYPES, not 23 ships.
does it mean India and Russia will have different Brahmos-2 missiles? how about current version? is Brahmos now used in Russian AF/Fleet or Onyx without updates?
Who knows. No, Bhramos isn't used by Russians. Nor will it be. Unless they want a supersonic land attack capability.
I always thought Brahmos = P-800 Oniks more or less
Here is some update on Hypersonic Brahmos from recent Defexpo 2012 at Delhi
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After the success of Brahmos, Russia and India are in talks to jointly develop yet another hypersonic cruise missile capable of flying at Mach 5-Mach 7 and will soon agree on a general outline of the design, the head of the BrahMos Indian-Russian cruise missile program, Praveen Pathak, said on Friday at the Defexpo in New Delhi.
"In the near future, we will set up a joint working group which will work out the parameters of the missile in cooperation with developers, and also decide how much each side will contribue to the project," Pathak said.
"We want to create a weapon which would not differ much from the existing BrahMos missile in weight and dimensions, so that it could be used in existing launchers on ships or mobile launchers. In this case it would not take too much work to convert such systems to hypersonic," he said. "We hope by the end of the year we'll carry out the first launch from an aircraft. It will be an air-launch”.
Yeah, more or less. Brahmos(different seeker and some go fast strippes)= Yakhont which is an export downgrade version of Onyx.
so what Russia does have from this cooperation? if no feature developed in India seems to be used and Onyx was long time developed? I thought that land attack capability or shared costs for hypersonic version might be the case. Apparently I do not not see something
Onyx was 80's project. Went online in 90's. As far as hypersonic ASM well money and maybe some know how from India. Though how much India really contributed to Zircon-S if any Is to be seen. For all we know Zircon-S and Brahmos part deux are two different missile's or perhaps distant cousins or one and the same. Nobody knows or can say for sure now.so what Russia does have from this cooperation? if no feature developed in India seems to be used and Onyx was long time developed? I thought that land attack capability or shared costs for hypersonic version might be the case. Apparently I do not not see something
I'm hoping they ain't related and two different potent sytems. That be bitching. That and I can totally rub it into to Lord Artjomh's face.
Last edited by Rubick; 04-26-2012 at 03:06 PM.
Russian Navy to receive seven project 855 (Yasen class) SSN submarines by 2021
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index...sk=view&id=445By 2021 defense shipyard Sevmash will build seven strike nuclear submarines of Yasen class for the Russian Navy including six submarines with reinforced missile armament and reduced level of noise, a source in the governmental military industrial commission reported.
The source said, "The first nuclear submarine Severodvinsk of project 855 of Yasen class of the fourth generation will be adopted for service and will be commissioned with the Navy this year." He added, "Construction of the lead submarine Kazan of project 855M, a modernized strike submarine with reduced level of noise and reinforced missile armament, should be completed in 2015. In addition to this it is planned to build a series of five such nuclear submarines by 2021. The state contract on them worth more than 150 billion rubles was signed between the Defense Ministry and USC in November of 2011."
According to the source, "The overall costs of construction of all seven nuclear submarines of Yasen class exceed 200 billion rubles. One strike nuclear submarine of project 855M of this class costs 50-100% more than a strategic missile-carrying submarine of project 955 and even project 955A of Borey class with reinforced nuclear missile armament."
Medvedev sends Air Force Commander into retirement
Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has sacked Russian Air Force Commander, Colonel-General Alexander Zelin and dismissed him from military service, the Kremlin said on Friday.Zelin, 59, has occupied the top military post for five years, during which the air force has begun to receive new aircraft and equipment in significant numbers for the first time since the end of the Soviet Union.“To the observer Zelin appeared to preside over a period where air force procurement and plans became more planted in reality than merely in aspirations,” said Douglas Barrie, an air warfare analyst at the London-based International Institute of Strategic Studies.No reason was given for the dismissal but senior military commanders in Russia usually retire at age 60.Igor Korotchenko, chairman of Defense Ministry’s Public Council said that the reshuffle was a normal practice for military officials.“Medevedev’s move will give the road to new, younger military specialists,” Korotchenko said, adding an experienced commander Zelin would likely move on to a top post in a defense industrial holding or corporation.
http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20120427/173084185.html
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