Reply With Quoteand first and foremost, an aircraft carrier a year... It's not possible...Originally Posted by African-European
Dmitry Rogozin: Russia to build 6 submarines annually
Russia will start producing six submarines and one aircraft carrier annually starting in 2013, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said on Thursday.“By 2013, production capacity [at Russian shipyards] will allow us to build six submarines and an aircraft carrier every year,” Rogozin told reporters, adding that the number includes both nuclear and diesel-powered submarines.
As a result, the production output will surpass that of the Soviet era when Russia built an average of five submarines annually, he said.
Rogozin earlier said the production had been bogged down in the past by a lack of financing, outdated equipment and a shortage of skilled labor.
Russia is planning to build eight Borey class strategic submarines and up to 10 Graney class attack subs by 2020.
http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20120202/171099357.html
Lol Rogozin 6 subs annually ?????? Unless Russia starts spending half of its military budget on the navy.
Russian navy won't scrap Akula (Typhoon) class submarines
Russia has decided to suspend the planned disposal of third-generation strategic nuclear submarines currently in service with the Navy, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said on Thursday.“The most successful projects will undergo two repairs instead of one. The subs' period of service will be extended to 30-35 years instead of the current 25,” Rogozin told journalists.He also said Akula (Typhoon) class submarines will be upgraded and their electronics and armaments replaced every seven years.According to Rogozin, this will help gain time until all eight Borey class strategic submarines are deployed by 2020.The deputy premier also said a naval vessel construction development program for the next 30 years is expected to be worked out soon.
http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20120202/171099602.html
and first and foremost, an aircraft carrier a year... It's not possible...
Why couldn't they "start producing" 6 subs and a carrier, annually (i dont think it means, 6 subs and an aircraft carrier off the slipways annually)
I have to agree with this aspect. 6 subs a year I could see, particularly with 4 or so of them being non-nuclear but the carriers? I can't see them finishing a carrier in a year and neither do I think that they have enough drydock space to hold 2-4 carriers in various stages of construction depending on how long you think it takes to build one.
Hi Russian friends, can I ask you a question about HUD.
Why the other modern fighters (like F22, Typhoon, Rafale, Gripen, J20) have the green color HUD (look from the front), the HUD of Russian fighters is still white even for T50?
What is the purpose of making HUD green?
Thanks.
Any official numbers on how many Su-24 being upgraded to Su-24M2 standards ?
Vice Admiral Kulakov is now fully complemented with contracted sailors and officers
http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20120203/171116646.html
Good stuff, good stuff.
I think by "aircraft carriers" he means the Mistralskis. Although the first one will be delivered in 3 years only. As far as real carriers go, there is not even a concrete design out yet and Kuznetsov is about to go for total overhaul (which will take several years in itself).
Rogozin is trolling through ignorance.
Interview with CEO of "Traktornye Zavody". talks about BMP-3 and a little sneak peak on new BMP (Kurganets-25)
http://www.vesti.ru/only_video.html?vid=394517
6 submarines and an aircraft carrier probably refers to full capacity. Remember, Soviet Navy had the largest submarine fleet in the world, more ships than the entire NATO combined. Amur Shipyard, Sevmash and Admiralty shipyard churned out submarines like hot pies.
Full capacity is not the same as effective production rate, though. Or in fact firm orders. They are just talking about theoretical limits.
Nor is six submarines all that unprecedented. You know how many Kilos Russia is making for China and Algeria and Vietnam even today?
The Russian Navy grows from bottom up
RIA Novosti military commentator Konstantin Bogdanov
While the nation’s leaders work at overhauling the Navy organization, the Navy itself continues to order new ships. Last year’s persistent scandals over nuclear submarine contracts proved a hard nut to crack when assigning government contracts in 2011. For a time, the submarine scandals confused the process for ordering surface ships. Meanwhile the focus there is being shifted to the production of time tested projects built around today’s armaments.“Due to the lack of funding, the Navy has come close to a numerical minimum required to fulfill its mission,” Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said at a meeting with the heads of the Sevmash and Zvezdochka shipyards, and the Navy command. The meeting was called to discuss the development of Russia’s Navy.The deputy prime minister said many ships are being used beyond their service life and the Russian Navy needs urgent renovation. “The now widespread practice of rebuilding and renovating the fleet ship by ship to extend its service life has destroyed our production cooperation,” Rogozin said.Building quietly and stubbornlyStill, it’s inaccurate to say that only one-off vessels are being constructed. Last Wednesday, two ships were laid down in St. Petersburg: the Project 22350 Admiral Golovko frigate and the Project 20385 Gremyashchy corvette.The Golovko is the third vessel in the Project 22350 class. The first one – Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov – hit the water in October 2010 and the second (Admiral of the Fleet Kasatonov) is scheduled to be launched this year. The Gremyashchy is formally the first Project 20385 ship, but it is a further development of Projects 20380 and 20381 corvettes, two of which have already joined the Baltic Fleet, with one more undergoing trials and another under construction. Current contracts provide for the building of eight Project 22350 frigates (including the Gorshkov and the Kasatonov) and eight Project 20385 corvettes (the Gremyashchy will be the first).What are we building?The Russian Navy is not obsessed with grand-scale projects or the “de facto global standard” – strike groups of heavy ocean-going ships deployed around nuclear aircraft carriers. Even at its height the Soviet Union failed to live up to that standard with reasons ranging from weaknesses in industry and ship repair facilities to the varying rants of top military and defense industry leadership.The Russian Navy orders simple and ordinary workhorses for the sea. When a large number of ships was decommissioned in the 1990s (the non-strategic portion), it left a big gap in the country’s naval forces.The commissioning of single surface vessels for each main class (like the Pyotr Veliky in 1996) did little to prevent the overall degradation of Russia’s four fleets.Project 20380/20385 corvettes (or more precisely, multi-role short range escort vessels) are intended to close the gap in the coastal defense forces. Project 22350 frigates (multi-role offshore patrol vessels) are believed to be the core of Russia’s new Navy now. In the early 2000s, when this project was accepted as promising, the number of vessels to be built was 30. It is difficult to appraise such Napoleonic plans, but the approach has not changed: the volume of construction anticipated is up to 20 units over the next 15 to 20 years.Next in line is the development and construction of ocean-going destroyers. A competition is currently under way for the best project. These ships need to be large enough and well-armed. They will be in fact missile cruisers rather than destroyers. The Navy is growing “from the bottom up” as it tries out new directions and unifies the armaments on its new vessels.Roman Trotsenko, the head of United Shipbuilding Corporation, who touts the new shipyards at Kotlin Island, regularly promotes the idea of a nuclear aircraft carrier. The military is cautious: it says the State Armaments Program till 2020 does not mention an aircraft carrier. Yet it has launched a series of research and development projects just in case to determine the role and place of such ships in the Navy of the future.Marine standardThe tendency of the Russian military to save costs and unify the fleet’s missiles is worth a separate comment. In the Soviet days, the Navy went on a spree of producing “unique” strike missile systems with incompatible launchers and missiles. In each case the adoption of one or another system was absolutely justified by tasks at hand. But it all produced a monstrous zoo full of combat weapons in the Navy. The defense industry, accustomed to spending freely, also lent a hand: sometimes military experts, who were practically-minded, combined a new missile with an old launcher. The result was self-evident.Take, for example, the saga of Project 670 and 670M submarines, which were to be equipped with one missile system (there were plans to arm older submarines with the new Malakhit missile with an extended range). The upshot, however, was that each project retained its original armaments – until the boats were decommissioned in the early 1990s. But times change and the money, not a lot even in the glorious era of Fleet Admiral Sergei Gorshkov, came to an end. The concept of a multi-purpose ship firing system became overriding: all ships in the basic classes – including Projects 20385 and 22350 and their likely cousins (ocean-going destroyers) – are now to be equipped this way.In effect, it is a group of unified vertical launchers which offer a wide range of configurations. A ship equipped with this multi-purpose system can carry anti-ship Oniks cruise missiles or missiles from the all-purpose Kalibr system (in three configurations: supersonic anti-ship, subsonic for engaging ground targets and anti-submarine). Future plans contemplate extending this armory by including surface-to-air missiles, although for the time being the new system is employed only in strike systems.The West will help usThe delay in commissioning Project 22350 vessels (the first ship was laid down in 2006) suggested a simple solution. It was decided that the amount of time needed to start the construction Gorshkov class ships could also be spent on a simultaneous commissioning of Project 1135.7 frigates.This frigate is a very interesting ship. It is based on Project 1135.6 – a distant descendant of Soviet Project 1135 patrol ships developed for the Indian Navy (known as Talwar-type frigates). The Baltic shipyard has already delivered the first three vessels of this class to India. Three more are under construction at the Yantar shipyard in Kaliningrad.The Russian Navy, which badly needs new ships, has requested a “domestic” version of the Talwar, code-named 1135.7 instead. The projects turned out to be so similar that many systems adopted for the 1135.7 turned out to be systems developed for overseas customers and until recently they lacked the authorization for use in the Russian Armed Forces.The Russian Navy has now placed orders for six Project 1135.7 frigates with Yantar. Two of them are already laid down: the Admiral Grigorovich in December 2010 and the Admiral Essen in July 2011. For 2012, plans call for the start of two or three more ships, and one or two in 2013.But the feeling is that six frigates are not the limit: Project 22350 is costly and needs to be brought up to date. The current brass, badly shaken by the 1990s disaster, is holding to the maxim: “If it works, don’t fix it.” So if the 1135.7 is accepted by the Navy, a large series will be built – perhaps in an upgraded configuration.This will be the Russian surface fleet for the 21st century: tight-fisted, pragmatic and knowing its limits. Public opinion seems abashed to see its military in this light – but it will have to get used to it.
http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20120203/171119218.html
The views expressed in this article are the author’s and do not necessarily represent those of RIA Novosti.
Russia to build two space space-defense missile plants
Two space-defense missile plants will be built in central Russia, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said on Friday.The first, to be based in Nizhny Novgorod, will employ 5,000 workers and have a total manufacturing volume of 6 billion rubles (about $200 million). The second, in the city of Kirov, will employ 3,000.
“I hope we will develop models that are superior to those of our potential opponents,” he told President Dmitry Medvedev.
Rogozin previously proposed consolidating all the related defense-industry enterprises into a single holding with priority to be given to establishing an Aerospace Defense System managing company and holding modeled on the Almaz-Antey air-defense corporation, United Shipbuilding Corporation and United Aircraft Corporation.
The holding will work on projects for the ADS unified strategic command combining air, missile and space defenses, which was established in December 2011.
It combines the existing air defense and missile defense networks, missile early-warning systems and airspace monitoring systems under a unified strategic command.
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20120203/171120539.html
Next time don't quote the whole article ;P
I agree with the general idea though. All the points are quite valid and I think most of us here will agree that there's been a ton of progress in the navy this past decade.
Can you translate to us the salient points of the interview since its in Russian ?
Russian Strategic Subs to Resume Routine World Patrols
Russian strategic nuclear submarines will resume routine extended patrols in international waters around the world in June 2012, Russian Navy Commander Adm. Vladimir Vysotsky said.
“On June 1 or a bit later we will resume constant patrolling of the world’s oceans by strategic nuclear submarines,” Vysotsky said at a meeting with naval personnel on Friday.
The annual number of extended patrols performed by Russian strategic nuclear submarines and nuclear-powered attack submarines has dropped from more than 230 in 1984 to less than 10 today.
The Russian military believes, though, that the submarine fleet is still the backbone of the Russian Navy, and that it will continue to play an important deterrent role in the future.
The Russian Navy has 12 nuclear-powered strategic submarines in service, including five Delta-III class, six Delta-IV class and a Typhoon class vessels. Two Typhoon class submarines, the Arkhangelsk and the Severstal, remain in reserve at a naval base in Severodvinsk in north Russia
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