Russian Armed Forces News & Discussion thread

[Universals]

Not by “Mistral” alone: new landing ship for Russian Navy

so there's a second Ivan green hull? Interesting.

[AustinJ]

Seems Avangrad ICBM was successfully tested today

Strategic Rocket Forces successfully launched a prototype intercontinental ballistic missile

"It is planned that the new ICBMs will increase the combat capabilities of the strike group in the Strategic Missile Forces Russian strategic nuclear forces, including through increased capacity created to overcome missile defense systems," - he added.

According to the Strategic Missile Forces, start was made to obtain experimental data on the accuracy of missiles made in the development of scientific, technical and technological solutions, to check availability and to determine the characteristics of its systems and assemblies.

Launching an ICBM was made May 23 at 10.15 from a mobile launcher. According to the Ministry of Defense, this is the first test launch of missiles, it conducted joint military calculations of the Strategic Missile Forces and Space Forces.

"The missile is created with the maximum use of existing and development of new backlogs and solutions obtained during the development of a fifth-generation missile systems, which significantly reduces time and cost to create it" - said Koval.

[African-European]

Russia turns on new missile warning radar

Russia placed its new Voronezh-M long-range missile warning radar on duty in the Irkutsk region of Siberia on Wednesday, marking a major increase in its missile early warning system capability.."At 10:15 a.m. (5:15 a.m. Moscow time) on May 23, it was put on duty," said Lt. Gen. Oleg Ostapenko, the commander of Russia's Aerospace Defense Forces at the site."This unique station has massive capabilities and is a key link in carring out our strategic tasks given to us by the high command. It plays a key role in the missile early warning chain," he said at the opening ceremony for the Voronezh-M radar station."Once a second Voronezh-M is built, we will no longer have to rely on the Dnepr missile early warning system radars" he added.The Dnepr system was the Soviet Union's first generation phased-array anti-missile radar system. It was deployed at a number of peripheral sites in the USSR including Latvia, Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan. Russia lost use of these facilities when the Soviet Union collapsed, causing a loss of surveillance capability.With the introduction of a second Voronezh-M station, the system will have its coverage doubled to 240 degrees, covering an arc from India to the United States.The new Voronezh-M station can also be more quickly deployed to a new site and requires a smaller crew to operate it compared to previous generation stations. The radar station also uses 40 percent less energy.Former Strategic Missile Forces Chief of Staff Col. Gen. Viktor Yesin said the new Voronezh-M radar station covers the northeast of the U.S. and China.It can detect ballistic targets up to 6000 kilometers, while the older Dnepr radar can only detect them at up to 2500 kilometers, Yesin said.

http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20120523/173620853.html

[geolocator]

Please, tell me why Russia builds Voronezh-M in one place, Voronezh-DM in other, tells about a Voronezh-VP. It looks like a mess.

[artjomh]

Please, tell me why Russia builds Voronezh-M in one place, Voronezh-DM in other, tells about a Voronezh-VP. It looks like a mess.

To you, perhaps...

VHF band radars provide extremely long scanning range, but at a cost of lower resolution. UHF band radars have smaller range, but higher resolution.

Russian military builds VHF (Daryal/Voronezh-M/Voronezh-VP) and UHF (Volga/Voronezh-DM) radars so that their fields of view are interspersed. An airborne object would first be detected by a VHF radar at extreme range, and as it comes closer, it can be identified by higher resolution UHF radars. SHF/X band radars then provide a firing solution to missile defence crews.

This provides more decision lead time to the military and politicians.

[AustinJ]

The Metric/L-Band radar coverage makes sense but do these actually over lap at all locations ... i mean for every Metric Band coverage do they have L band radar that cover the same location/area , so its truly dual band radar looking at the same area of interest ?

The M is mentioned as having a range of 6000 km by some media what about DM radar do they have similar range ?

[artjomh]

They are designed to overlap, but, obviously, not all sectors are covered so far.

The current configuration is (counting from Pechora counterclockwise):

VHF - UHF - VHF - UHF - UHF - UHF - UHF - VHF - VHF - VHF

Pechora - Olenegorsk - Lekhtusi - Pionersky - Gantsevichi - Armavir-1 - Armavir-2 - Gabala - Mishelevka-1 - Mishelevka-2

[AustinJ]

Ok Thanks a diagram representation would be interesting but its good to know the idea is to overlap .......A Metric/L band radar is not just good for BM detection but also to detect cruise missile and fighter aircraft at long ranges.... it cant get better than this in present technology we have.

[xav]

so there's a second Ivan green hull? Interesting.

For the record, back in October:
4 Mistrals won't be enough: Russian Navy likely to order several Project 11711 Ivan Gren class

A source within the Defense Ministry said, "The Navy needs at least 18 ships of this class. Say, four Mistrals will meet approximately 50% of the requirements and leave the rest to smaller ships like the Ivan Gren."

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index...ren-class.html

[metberkut]

Ok Thanks a diagram representation would be interesting but its good to know the idea is to overlap

I have seen one, have it on my HD somewhere, but cant find it.

[artjomh]

Pavel Podvig had a couple of maps of early warning coverage, but they are pretty outdated.





The radar in Kazakhstan is non-operational, and some of the radars have a larger field of view (and obviously range).

The chart is also missing the radar in Kaliningrad (but think of it as an extra 110 degree sector 6000 km long).

This article should give an overview of how the system developed over time.

http://cisac.stanford.edu/publicatio...warning_system

[metberkut]

The one i have seen was very different, inforgraphic, very nice one. (and it was rather recent, less than one year)

[GunshipDemocracy]

ooooooooops Austin was first ;o)

was it Avangard?
http://www.deagel.com/Ballistic-Miss...002719001.aspx

in English
http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_05_23/75671489/

Russia has effectively test-fired the prototype of a new intercontinental ballistic missile from the Plesetsk space centre, in northern Russia. This came in a statement by the Defence Ministry official in charge of the Russian Strategic Missile Forces, Vadim Koval.


According to him, the new missile will boost the operational capability of the Strategic Troops’ cutting edge, specifically due to its enhanced ability to penetrate enemy air-defence systems in the making. The missile designers are relying heavily on technology concepts formulated for the fifth-generation guided missile systems, to build the ICBM sooner and make it less costly.

[artjomh]

There is also this one. But the angles on this one is pretty wrong too.

[geolocator]

This one looks more real.