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    Default The worlds most dangerous countries for women

    Afghanistan, Congo and Pakistan are the world's most dangerous countries for women due to a barrage of threats ranging from violence and rape to dismal healthcare and "honour killngs", a Thomson ******* Foundation expert poll showed on Wednesday.
    India and Somalia ranked fourth and fifth, respectively, in the global perceptions survey by TrustLaw (www.trust.org/trustlaw), the Foundation's legal news service.
    TrustLaw asked 213 gender experts from five continents to rank countries by overall perceptions of danger as well as by six risks: health threats, ****** violence, non-****** violence, cultural or religious factors, lack of access to resources and trafficking.
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    I wish it was more of a thorough study rather than "perceptions" of 213 experts.

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    I can think of quite a few more countries more dangerous for women then India....

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    Besides the experts and so-called experts, the numbers shown should be convincing enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darklord View Post
    I wish it was more of a thorough study rather than "perceptions" of 213 experts.
    Apparently you missed the sources that are listed at the bottom of the article: AlertNet, U.N. agencies, IRIN News, American Journal of Public Health, World Bank, Gender Index, Human Rights Watch, International Center for Research on Women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pocoloco View Post
    Besides the experts and so-called experts, the numbers shown should be convincing enough?
    They themselves say it is based on "perceptions" rather than numbers. We have the numbers of India. What about other countries that are not in the ranking?

    I think you will agree that a ranking based on numbers have more standing than ranking based on "perception."

    Do we have the numbers of other countries? I tried their full report.

    Their report itself states:
    India and Somalia ranked fourth and fifth, respectively, in the global perceptions survey by TrustLaw (www.trust.org/trustlaw), the Foundation's legal news service.

    TrustLaw asked 213 gender experts from five continents to rank countries by overall perceptions of danger as well as by six risks: health threats, ****** violence, non-****** violence, cultural or religious factors, lack of access to resources and trafficking.
    How can perceptions of 213 experts be termed as an actual ranking? They have given the numbers for female foeticide in India in the last century. What are the comparative numbers of other countries in the same period? If they don't know it and we don't know it how can India be termed as fourth most dangerous in terms of female foeticide?

    One more thing:
    The report quotes some experts as saying that "the world's largest democracy was relatively forthcoming about describing its problems, possibly casting it in a darker light than if other countries were equally transparent about trafficking".
    Which will go a long way in skewing "perceptions."

    Hence I said:
    I wish it was more of a thorough study rather than "perceptions" of 213 experts.
    Quote Originally Posted by calimero2 View Post
    Apparently you missed the sources that are listed at the bottom of the article: AlertNet, U.N. agencies, IRIN News, American Journal of Public Health, World Bank, Gender Index, Human Rights Watch, International Center for Research on Women.
    I am not at all disputing any of that. Please read my above post.

    We have real problems wrt women and children; amongst millions of other problems. I too have a problem; a problem with ranking India as "fourth most dangerous for women" based on perception rather than a statistics-based study. At least it would have helped GoI and NGOs in focusing more in problem areas.

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    You raise good points there, surely for example China should be competing for the top places of that poll.

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    Ok maybe India is not fourth , but is it still jacked up towards women ?

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    I would have thought the "Kingdom in the Closet" would have made the top 5, but oh well.

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    Woman in America are pretty well off, unless of course you're a Muslim. I cant tell you all how many women I see in full burkas in my back woods country town of Ohio. It perplexes me that we've made so many strides towards women's equality in this country, but we close our eyes to the oppression going on all around us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pocoloco View Post
    You raise good points there.
    Thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Semperfidjm View Post
    Ok maybe India is not fourth , but is it still jacked up towards women ?
    I wish I could give a simple "yes" or "no." Permit me to just say, like I said in this thread and elsewhere in this forum, we have a long long progress to make in that area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wimbly View Post
    Woman in America are pretty well off, unless of course you're a Muslim. I cant tell you all how many women I see in full burkas in my back woods country town of Ohio. It perplexes me that we've made so many strides towards women's equality in this country, but we close our eyes to the oppression going on all around us.
    Is called political correctness and multiculturalism.

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    It is a sad, sad thing to see Afghanistan there as number 1. After so long spent there as well....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wimbly View Post
    Woman in America are pretty well off, unless of course you're a Muslim. I cant tell you all how many women I see in full burkas in my back woods country town of Ohio. It perplexes me that we've made so many strides towards women's equality in this country, but we close our eyes to the oppression going on all around us.
    I work with a women here in the UK who converted to Islam after marrying her husband. Her husband is a secular muslim who hates the fact she wears a burqa at times but she chooses it. Not always as clear cut as burqa=opression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wahnsinn View Post
    I work with a women here in the UK who converted to Islam after marrying her husband. Her husband is a secular muslim who hates the fact she wears a burqa at times but she chooses it. Not always as clear cut as burqa=opression.
    Usually it seems that the fresh converts (to any faith) seem to have lots to prove, not only to others but to themselves as well. Kind of self-oppression, if one wants to go that route.

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