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sokay - like I said that was a while back (being an old bastard has has its drawbacks)...maybe they dont do it anymore.
Are you talking about current U.S. military or Vietnam era?The jail thing - I had a couple of friends, and in fact my own father also, who were basically given the choice of going to the pokey, or joining up. My dad chose the Navy (the fool!!!!) Nobody is gets into West Point, the Air Force Academy or Annapolis this way, but it does happen. Local kid gets in trouble constantly with the Sheriff and is given a choice. The military is good at straightening out bent people.
I served with Poms, Yanks, Kiwis, Canucks, Fijians, Russians and Zimbabweans while in the Australian Army and there would be many other nationalities serving. Most were already living in Australia when they joined, some of the Poms and Canucks transfered from their Army to ours, I'm not sure if they can still do that or if they do it on a case by case basis.
It was early '90s. And I think I'd better clear up what I mean here - I think I've stated it wrong previously. It wasn't a case of going in front of a judge, being found guilty, then being sentenced to either the Army or Jail. Yes I think you're right - that is simply never done.Originally Posted by Jack Mehoff
Of the 2 people I personally knew who did it - they were both from very small towns in Maine. They'd been it trouble with the law - no jail time or anything - but it got to a point where the local law enforcement basically gave them the choice of either being charged with a crime (an probably jail time etc.) or get the hell out of their hair by joining the service. So their choice was to join the service -while they still have a clean record and can make something of themselves - or get charged with whatever & start a downward slide. One guy's "final straw" was stealing a Christmas tree (with friends), erecting & decorating it in his van -which had windows, by the way, and driving around with it while swilling beer.
And if you think about it, it would have nothing to do with Army (or whatever service) policy. In fact, they could be completely unaware of the situation. So the odds are that the recruiter had absolutely no idea - and since the kids had no adult "record" to view there was no problem.
ive known some people who were in the Canadian military transferred to the American Military (Hiller was one of them) and my friends dad was posted to Canada after serveing with the American forces at Ft. Knox.
I'll sum it up for ya since I'm going to the Marines after high school and have served three years with the CF.
You need to be a US citizen or have a Permenant residence card(Green card)
If one of you parents or close relatives is a us citizen or was born in the US then you are eligable for citizenship.
otherwise you can obtain a green card through a workers visa or the Diversity lottery.
The US military is not allowed to sponsor your immigration.
To serve in the US military you need a full high school diploma.
Don't bother with getting a citizenship...board a flight to Paris, go to "Fort de Nogent" by the subway and ask for the Legion recruiting office.
If you are selected (one out of eight hopefuls currently) then it's five years minimum in the Legion. If you've served with honour and fidelity, you can ask for a French citizenship after your first 5 years.
Basic pay starts around 1100 USD for a private (+40% extra if airborne, ie 2°REP). Speaking French, you can hope to be an NCO within 4 years.
Here are a few links:
For someone seeking quality training and opportunity of deployment, the Legion is indeed a serious contender.
On the website, it says: "Des étrangers au service de la France". That's the part that'd make me hesitate a bit. Not that I have anything against France as a people, but I'm not too fond of their government's policies.
But from a purely professional perspective, it's the best. No question asked, tough training and guaranteed to see a fight within five years.
The US should have a foreign legion.
Basing your views of France on US medias would be a serious mistake; a bit like judging the USSR on the reading of "The Pravda"I'm not too fond of their government's policies.
When you read in some "serious" magazines that France is "an enemy of the USA", makes you wonder.
If you think that serving in Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan, Chad, Gabon, Ivory Coast, Djibuti, Erytrea,Central African Republic, Senegal....to name Just a few isn't a good idea, then, yes, give it a miss.....
Not so, I'm French-Canadian. We are probably France's largest media client abroad. We have just about everything: books, magazines, TV programs, you name it. My favorite military publication is Raids. Never miss an issue. Also, in my field of study, there is a massive French publication volume, so I get my hands on it quite often. It as easy getting Le Monde as it is getting Maclean or Time here.
I could return the comment, you know. Many french journalists and authors have a "particular" opinion of America...
I've been fortunate enough to travel several times to both France and the USA and make up my own idea. It's never like the other guy said...
The problem is not where I'd go, it's why I'd go. I won't get in too much details, I just disagree with the political stance France has adopted lately. And political science is just my main interest, it's not just "with or against us, so f**k off, I want my freedom fries"... I can't agree, I was in favor of the war...Enough said.
As I said, I have a lot of respect for the Legion, and what I admire the most I think is their loyalty, not towards a flag or a king or a god, but towards the Legion. Legio Patria Nostra...There is nothing political about being a Legionnaire, it's about being a warrior, plain and simple. that's where I'm not sure I jump in. The idea is romantic, but to me, serving involves beliefs, ideas. If I ever lose my illusions, I'll know where to go.
For the time being, I'm still driven by my ideas. Couldn't go against. And although I like the French as a people, a culture, a society (just as much as I like my fellow Canadians and as I like Americans, what a paradox...) I can't stand the idea of being the tool of a government I deeply disagree with. The military is a profession where you don't get to question what's asked of you. You may or may not agree with the orders you receive and that too suits me fine. But I can at least choose the "general direction" of my duty, if you know what I mean.
I haven't found what I'm looking for here in Canada either. Disappointed by the government, disappointed by the CF, I seek elsewhere what I'm after. It's nothing I feel the need to justify, I just know it.
And since I've been shuttling a lot to the US in the past few years, I grew attached to places there, people I met, etc. It's not perfect either, but suits me fine. So I keep thinking about enlisting there. It'd make sense from both a professional and personal point of view. But it's a lot of hassle, so it makes me wish for a US Foreign Legion. Nothing to get mad about.
So how's that work out? Does any nation allow non-citizens to join it's military?
Taliban takes foreign fighters
Originally Posted by Jack Mehoff