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    Quote Originally Posted by Piano View Post
    UNESCO doesn't deserve any money anyway. The whole thing is an internationalist 'boondoggle' - an opportunity for rentseeking bureaucrats to employ more rentseeking bureaucrats. Of course, the same is true of rest of the UN as well.
    The UNESCO is doing a lot of great work to restore and preserve historical sites, among other things...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piano View Post
    UNESCO doesn't deserve any money anyway. The whole thing is an internationalist 'boondoggle' - an opportunity for rentseeking bureaucrats to employ more rentseeking bureaucrats.
    You should get out more. Get of that island, see something of the world - and take a look at some UNESCO supported places.

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    Norway voted yes, can't say I'm surprised

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    The UNESCO decision of Palestine state membership acceptance necessitates the recognition of the new member state borders & the lands under its sovereignty. I assume that the organization would recognize these as defined by the PA. If this is true then it should be rated as a real achievement for Abbas & the PA. This would gain more supporters between the Palestinians to the peaceful solution & would secure more support domestically to Abbas strategy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shelata View Post
    The UNESCO decision of Palestine state membership acceptance necessitates the recognition of the new member state borders & the lands under its sovereignty.
    Haven't the borders placed under Palestinian national authority already been defined in the Oslo accords? The UNESCO doesn't seem to change much in this respect.

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    Australia, Canada, Czech Republic, Germany, Israel, Lithuania, the Netherlands, Palau, Panama, Samoa, Solomon Islands, Sweden, United States of America, Vanuatu.
    voted - no.
    interesting - in summ population of Palau,Samoa,Solomon Islands,Vunuatu ..exceeds population of palestinians?
    i m not big supporter of Palestina state, but if some "Palau...Vunuatu" has its state and recognized by UN...why palestina - has not?

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    Haven't the borders placed under Palestinian national authority already been defined in the Oslo accords? The UNESCO doesn't seem to change much in this respect.
    I do not think there was an agreement regarding the borders or the settlements or Jerusalem. The UNESCO stands towards these are not clear to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shelata View Post
    I do not think there was an agreement regarding the borders or the settlements or Jerusalem. The UNESCO stands towards these are not clear to me.
    I think the Oslo agreements determined the areas placed either fully or nominally under PA jurisdiction. That's why I don't think the UNESCO had to take a stand on the Palestinian borders (and I don't think it is its role to define what is a part of a nation and what is not, actually). Also, the Palestinians already were in UNESCO IIRC, with the status of observer.

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    What do you think the chances are that the PA will nominate the Tomb of the Patriarchs as a World Heritage Site?

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    Quote Originally Posted by [WDW]Megaraptor View Post
    What do you think the chances are that the PA will nominate the Tomb of the Patriarchs as a World Heritage Site?
    Very high of course.

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    Report: PA fails to meet UNESCO's education standards

    The United Nations Educational Scientific and Cultural Organization has clear prerequisites which every nation must meet before it is accepted into its ranks, such as: Do its textbooks recognize certain nations and religions, do they include anti-Semitic or racist references etc. The PA, it seems, is not exactly up to par.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...143029,00.html


    Not that the truth and the laws are relevant anymore once the islamo"fascist" states are dominating the institutions...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shelata View Post
    I do not think there was an agreement regarding the borders or the settlements or Jerusalem. The UNESCO stands towards these are not clear to me.
    Do you think Palestine as a member of UNESCO would destroy cultural heritage in Jerusalem, or do you think the situation of systematic destruction between 1948-1967 will not re-occur?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shelata View Post
    I do not think there was an agreement regarding the borders or the settlements or Jerusalem. The UNESCO stands towards these are not clear to me.
    UNESCO stands doesn't mean much regarding these issues. If Abbas goes on with his unilateral bids instead of negotiating a settlement, he may finish with a de facto PLO state in areas A & B and a Hamas state in Gaza strip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    UNESCO stands doesn't mean much regarding these issues. If Abbas goes on with his unilateral bids instead of negotiating a settlement, he may finish with a de facto PLO state in areas A & B and a Hamas state in Gaza strip.
    I think Israel would be OK with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlantic Friend View Post
    Very high of course.
    Not the slightest chance. All the chances are for the nomination of the Al Haram al Ibrahimi and the Bilal Ibn Rabah al Habashi mosques in their quest of faking history and their nazi like substitution strategy.

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