At the beggining of this thread, While Some of you imply a victory cause of Elbit refusal to sell optics for Gokturk satellites, I emphasized that Elbit is not sole optic provider for satellites in World. It is not important elbit is a World leader or not.
but You have already been discussing about a proper link to get Who support optic for Gokturk-1, While Telespazio officials along with TAI are telling that The project continues in accordance with schedule Despite Israeli refusal and Gokturk-1 will be launched into space in 2013...
It said, “Göktürk is on track for a launch window in line with contractual requirements.” Later a Telespazio official told Hürriyet Daily News that the satellite is scheduled to be launched into space in 2013, in line with the contract’s provisions.
At this phase, It is clear with officials' statements that Israeli optic is not in Gokturk-1 project and so It is out of their bussiness to say something about Gokturk-1. Israel also know this so A delegation from Israel came to Turkey to request Turkish officials not to sell Israel land' high resolution images to third parties especially Iran.
Israel is currently attempting to negotiate with Turkish officials in order to ensure Turkey does not sell images of Israel to other states and Palestine.
That's what Israeli officials took as a response from Turkish officials in those meetings...
Israel has already done What they are able to do: Refusing to provide Elbit optic for Gokturk-1. After this phase, Israel can not do anything except coming Turkey to request Turkish officials not to sell those images to third countries or making some diplomacy in French/Italy to cancel the project.However, the response from Turkish officials was clear: "We will decide how to use the images taken by our satellite."
but That's What Italian officials think for future cooperations for Turkey...
A senior Finmeccanica official earlier said his company also would seek to win a Turkish contract for the next military satellite. “The next satellite program involves a payload comprising a synthetic aperture radar, and the Finmeccanica Group companies will be even more competitive than in the past,” Paolo Pozzessere, Finmeccanica’s commercial director, told the Daily News.
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You still post here the same picture that proves nothing. And give links to articles that refer to the same old TodayZaman article.
I don't claim that Elbit is the only company that is capable to make a camera with required characteristics. I just ask, if it is not Elbit, who is the new manufacturer of the camera.
BTW, according to Elbit, "Business As usual with Turkey".
Do you think the Western countries that operate satellites - like Israel, the US or France - will provide or sell military grade pictures to rogue states, terror sponsors or terror organizations who may harm the strategic interests of any Western country?What are those rules? Any examples and/or sources?
No, they won't. On the contrary, they cooperate together in confidence and they won't transfer such pictures to any unreliable country, even if it is not considered as a terror sponsor. These are the rules among the Western players in this field.
And what is this Turkish business model to sell military grade pictures? Does any country sells military grade pictures to anyone?
I never heard such thing!
I don't have links to give you. If you believe I'm wrong about these rules, prove me I'm wrong.
Israel could block Turkey from acceding to some technologies Turkey badly needs.Everyone is innocent until the opposite is proven
And I've really hard to believe that Turkey would cooperate with any terrorist organization in that field. Now I'm curious. Any hints what Israel can do or what legal steps it can take?
1/ I'm not sure Turkey will find an alternative camera.
2/ I don't believe US Congress will approve the transfer of the F-16s source code to Turkey, if Turkey won't offer guarantees it won't transfer HR pictures of Israel's territory to a third party, just as US companies are forbidden from selling/transferring.
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BTW, A satellite image taken by Tubitak R&D satellite called "Rasat" which was launched into space from Russia in August 2011.
HR pictures of strategic installations are not for sale.
If you check the 2009-2010 sources about Gokturk-1, You would see the launching year like 2011-12 but At those days, After Israel refused to sell optics or issued their suspicious, TAI-Telespazio Officials updated launching date of Gokturk-1 and Now a days, We see 2013 year as launching date of it. The reason of this delay ? I think It is about Elbit optics that was refused to be sold for Gokturk-1 so The project delayed until Telespazio finds a new provider.
Joke aside, Ismet Yildiz and a group of defence minister delegation of Turkiye are in USA now a days. 4-5 hours ago, Defence Minister, Ismet Yildiz says that Relations between Turkey-USA has entered a new stage and We have re-discovered eachothers... Please don't want me to provide a link...
-Israel demanded Turkey not to sell images of Israel, as a condition to provide the camera (the old Zaman article).
-Israel refused to provide the camera.
-The project was delayed.
Am I right?
Quote me a single Arab country which is not dangerous and completely reliable!
If Turkey has no intention to share its pictures with Arab countries, as you say, why it refuses to guarantee it won't do it?
It was just an example. But read carefully the report posted by Cabati about the transfer of the source code of the F-16 and you'll see that in diplomatic language, US administrations asks Turkey, among other things, to normalize its relations with Israel in order to get it: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...=1#post5852903Your second point is baseless as for now.