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I'm just mad 'cuz I wish I had an M1A
The evolution of H2O's bullpup M14
My bullpup M14 conversion continues to evolve…
Configurations that I have tried:
I have used the my Mod 1 type SEI barreled action in this chassis, it has a light weight 18" barrel.
I have used the my Mod 0 type SEI barreled action in this chassis, it has a sub MOA medium heavy weight 18" barrel.
* The overall length of any 18.0" barreled action equipped with a DC Vortex is 28.25" in this chassis.
I have tried the Magpul AFG, Grip-pod, Tango down and Atlas bipods.
I tried TROY Micro folding battle sights… they are too short for this application.
The 29" Blackhawk Homeland Security Discreet Case and 7.62mm hook &
loop 3 mag shingle that I purchased separately are perfect.
Optics:
I tried an XR308 from EOTech and a Leupold Mark 4 1.5-5x20mm MR/T with an offset MRDS.
* The offset MRDS is a total waste of time on this chassis, but it is awesome on my SAGE EBRs
Modifications/Changes:
My first modification:
In an effort to improve the feel and usefulness of the factory trigger
pad I used the outline of my M14HDW.US V2 EBR trigger shoe and a file to
reshape the original trigger pad.
I was somewhat successful, but it could be better.
* Soon after I informed the manufacturer that I had modified my trigger
pad they quickly found a reason to initiate product improvement #2 and
lowered the trigger pad… I don't know if they have rounded off the
sharp bottom edge though because the manufacturer is dragging there feet
about sending me some new replacement trigger pads
* Also, I complied with an earlier request to distributors by the
manufacturer to swap out the rear brackets for new ones to solve some
fitment issues – mine fit fine, but I replaced it and the brackets on
stocks I have in inventory. This was product improvement #1 and it went
smoothly.
The next modifications:
After I addressed the trigger pad I focused my attention on mag changes.
I had a SADLAK tactical mag release installed.
IMHO, this is a must have item for all owners of this chassis…
reaching back and behind the mag body to release the mag is much easier
with the SADLAK part.
I also replaced the original pistol grip with a Magpul MIAD.
I have large hands and the grip change provides me with a bit more room to rock the mags in and out of the receiver.
More changes:
The CQB-16 barreled action that SEI built for me earlier this year is
now in my bullpup M14 chassis. It has a 16.25" light weight barrel.
* The overall length of any 16.25" barrel equipped with a DC Vortex or Comp is 27.75" in this chassis.
Bullpup CQB-16 optics:
I am currently using the following mix of sighting kit.
Magpul MBUS – Gen II, LaRue Tactical LT608, Aimpoint CompC-2X 2MOA, EOTech FTS 3X magnifier – Gen II.
* The MBUS required some work with a file to fit… this was an easy modification.
Stay tuned, this compact blaster is growing on me fast and I have
completed additional modifications plus I'm currently working on more
modifications & upgrades for this chassis.
- H2O MAN
* I own several M14s with SAGE EBRs being my favorite and I understand
that it's an odd niche that would ever consider converting an M14/M1A
into a bullpup.
Let me know if you fit into that odd niche, maybe I can help.
tsk tsk sir, this is the internet. Pics or it didn't happen
I'm just mad 'cuz I wish I had an M1A
The most recent pictureOriginally Posted by kevlar308
tsk tsk sir, this is the internet. Pics or it didn't happen
I'm just mad 'cuz I wish I had an M1A
Nice idea for a thread, H2OMan!
Even though they aren't my cup of tea, I always find the pics of your latest M1A/M14s of great interest!
Looking forward to the photos!
Nicely done!The most recent picture
Thank you both!
very nice, is the forward grip comfortable so close to the pistol grip? I've seen that configuration some lately (like on the X95s) and it seems a little uncomfortable to me. Or does it help with distributing the weight since bullpups are butt-heavy rather than barrel-heavy?
How much does this baby weigh?The most recent picture
Thanks, a loaded bullpup M14 is tail heavy. I chose the RVG because of it's small size and light weight.
I grip it with my bottom three fingers, holding the stock with my thumb and index finger. The balance is fine for me.
15 pounds as pictured plus a Surefire Scout light that you can't see and an empty 20 round mag.
The chassis accounts for 6 pounds, plus the barreled action, plus the sighting gear.
Speaking of sighting gear...
Mounting optics on the 15.25 inches of top rail you get with this M14 bullpup chassis has been a challenge for me.
I found that the reticule needed to sit up high, higher than I'm used to... finding the eye relief sweet spot was also a challenge.
As I mentioned previously, I have tried several different combinations and the one pictured below seems to meet/exceed my wants and needs.
Magpul MBUS - Gen II, LaRue Tactical LT608, Aimpoint CompC-2X 2MOA, EOTech FTS 3X magnifier - Gen II.
* The MBUS required some work with a file to fit... this was an easy modification.
I am able to co-witness the MBUS through the Aimpoint and I will eventually have an Aimpoint Comp M4s for my bullpup.
Edit: weight posted above.
Looks bulky. How does it feel to shoot it with your cheek wield right by the chamber?
I remember you have cans for your M1As, does it balance better with one on?
It is a little bulky, but it's also a pleasure to shoot now that I've elevated my reticle and BUIS.
The weight of the suppressor does offset the weight of ammo, but the balance is good without the can installed because it's so close to your body.
Last edited by H2O MAN; 11-05-2011 at 05:41 PM.
Just been reading about the Rouge M1a bullpup, in the latest Special Weapons magazine, interesting concept. With its under-barrel gas system I would have hoped that the optics would be closer to the barrel...
I agree and hope the manufacturer considers making that happen.
Looks like just the stuff when on Klendathu.....The most recent picture
It looks like a big chunk of plastic ate the rifle.
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