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    IED vs. t-72 in Damascus:


    FSA running off with captured Syrian Army weapons in Damascus:

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    [QUOTE=gresh;6116731]IED vs. t-72 in Damascus:
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    That is not Damascus, but a suburbian town.

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    [QUOTE=Andy_UA;6116738]
    Quote Originally Posted by gresh View Post
    IED vs. t-72 in Damascus:
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    That is not Damascus, but a suburbian town.
    Douma is a suburb of Damascus just like Fair Oaks (where I live) is a suburb of Sacramento. It's like 10 miles outside downtown Damascus. About the same distance from where I live to Sacramento's city center. If someone not from around here were to ask me where I'm from, I'd tell them "Sacramento" and I'm sure a Douma resident would say something similar.

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    To me it seems more like a RPG attack. You can hear two explosions (first is the launch, second is the impact).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daimyo View Post
    To me it seems more like a RPG attack. You can hear two explosions (first is the launch, second is the impact).
    Know what, you're right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gresh View Post

    FSA running off with captured Syrian Army weapons in Damascus:
    It's good to see that the FSA is starting to hit Syrian Army bases and supply depots. I was beginning to worry that the fighting was contained inside the cities, and they weren't making any attempt to break out. Every base or supply depot that falls is one step closer to victory in Damascus.

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    Too close...


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    Street fighting in Syria, PKM machine gunner laying fire down a street, and what looks like a rocket attack on their position

    Free Syrian Army soldiers with what appears to be Assad Loyalist Soldiers in their custody in the city of Aleppo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impartial Bias View Post
    Free Syrian Army soldiers with what appears to be Assad Loyalist Soldiers in their custody in the city of Aleppo.
    Those men are not soldiers, they're insurgents or rebels. Let's not buy into the propaganda machine here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laworkerbee View Post
    Those men are not soldiers, they're insurgents or rebels. Let's not buy into the propaganda machine here.
    Insurgents and rebels are one and the same, which term is used depends on who you ask.
    And I do not buy into the "propaganda machine". I understand that this conflict is mostly Sectarian Violence, and it is hard, if not impossible, to find a group that is truly worthy of replacing Assad and his authoritarian regime.
    However, I think Assad and his government have to go. He, like his father, is a scab that has maintained power through oppression and suppression of his people. He has incited war and conflict not only in his country, but in Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Gaza, and Turkey, through his extremist beliefs and the arming of various insurgent groups. Its funny that the supporter of Insurgent groups in other countries now has an insurgency on his own soil, working against him.
    He's a destablizer to the entire region, just like his Father.
    He needs to go. I just hope that a worse regime doesn't take his place.

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    That's fine and dandy, but let's call a duck a duck.

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    Yeah the regime is pretty repressive, but calling them freedom fighters is like the Chechen rebels saying they're for peace&democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laworkerbee View Post
    That's fine and dandy, but let's call a duck a duck.
    One thing though...
    Much of the FSA is made up of defecting soldiers.
    Maybe some amongst those seen in the video are defecting soldiers. Would their title change from soldier to insurgent, just because of a change of loyalty? In a military coup, do the those instigating the coup remain soldiers, or does their title change from soldier to rebel or insurgent?
    Either way, it's all semantics, and it's practical meaning remains unchanged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impartial Bias View Post
    One thing though...
    Much of the FSA is made up of defecting soldiers.
    Maybe some amongst those seen in the video are defecting soldiers. Would their title change from soldier to insurgent, just because of a change of loyalty? In a military coup, do the those instigating the coup remain soldiers, or does their title change from soldier to rebel or insurgent?
    Either way, it's all semantics, and it's practical meaning remains unchanged.
    Defecting soldier = rebel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximmmm View Post
    Yeah the regime is pretty repressive, but calling them freedom fighters is like the Chechen rebels saying they're for peace&democracy.
    I'm for self-determination, in that regard. If the majority of Chechyan people feel that they no longer want to be part of Russia, then they shouldn't have to be. Remember that, during the Chechen wars, the Russian military killed upwards of 130,000 civilians, the majority of whom were ethnically Russian. So who's the better person in that episode? The supposed "terrorists" or the Russian state?
    I didn't support the Libyan War because we got militarily involved in it. We said that the NATO imposed a No-Fly Zone for the "protection of civilians threatened by Gadafi" and that we wouldn't take sides, but then we immediately instigated violence and further conflict by bombing Libyan infrastructure and military targets in support of the Rebel movement.
    If the FSA can successfully overthrow Assad's regime without major outside support, then that proves that they have the backing of the majority of Syria, and so have the right to set up a new government. As long as major outside support stays out of the conflict, I support the Revolution. My only hope is that a worse dictator doesn't take control in Syria.

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