Syrian Uprising - Photos and Videos Thread - Read First post.. Excessive graphic warn

[Moose]

That sentence just made my day, good sir!

Lack of training plus not having any situational awareness at all leads to so many catastrophic losses. Is anyone counting, how many tanks and IFVs Assad has already lost?

Could be the morale of some of those tank crews is a bit low. Expecting to get captured its always easier if you haven't fired your weapon. Doubt they have loaded the smoke canisters or even have ammo for them. Whose to say they are even fully crewed could be there's no commander or gunner sitting in some of the tank in videos we have seen where they are simply moving stuff from point A to B and being attacked. In the particular video with the mobility kill followed by some type of "sabot" who knows why they are not returning fire simply we have to accept that there is some factor the video didn't capture ...

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FSA battling with the Syrian Army, they destroy a BMP with what looks like an IED:

After the end of large protest held following Friday Prayer, Assad's gangs entered the Jobar neighborhood and spread around the mosques. When they arrived at the Grand Jobar Mosque, they left a car (Saba brand) near the north gate of the mosque and then left the neighborhood. One of the residents noticed this car and notified members of the FSA, who came to to the scene and searched the car and found a large bomb in the trunk with wireless detonators. They defused it and removed the bomb from the neighborhood.

Assad's gangs threatened the people of Jobar a number of times with punishment if they did stop the demonstrations and sent warnings to several prominent people in the neighborhood that the rebels of Jobar wanted them to stop the demonstrations and they will not bomb the neighborhood or carry out a terrible massacre.


One of the officers in Assad's gangs told striking shopkeepers last Saturday that they will soon face tougher punishment.

This is the wireless receiver to detonate it at a distance-

Everybody remember the car bombing of an opposition funeral in Zamalka that killed 85 a few weeks ago? Yeah.^

FSA Farouq Brigade in Talbiseh, Homs attacking a Syrian Army position with mortars:

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[Kher]

Interesting, is that some kind of maritime tracking software?

The picture text reads "Radarimage from Coast Guard ship «Barentshav»"

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Azaz District Directorate building in Aleppo destroyed by the FSA:


FSA attack Army checkpoint in Aleppo:


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FSA attack an Army position in Qusayr, Homs:

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Another FSA attack on an Army position in Qusayr:


Same group as above attacking an Army position at night:

[Camera]

I don't get why the Syrian army does nothing to improve their tank's armor against RPGs. Sideskirts, spaced sheets of steel on the front and all around the turret, and some "slat" on the back of the tank isn't hard to make. Really, anything that leads to a premature/spaced detonation of the RPG round is probably enough to prevent penetration. They should really invest in some sideskirts and the above mentioned armor, especially when driving around inside buildings without infantry support.

Also, why do their tanks never seem to fire back? The 3 tanks that get hit by RPGs don't fire a round, the T-55 that was hit from behind the gas station doesn't turn its turret and fry them with a HE round and MG fire but instead keeps on driving blindly with its turret forward and getting shot at from behind...

It really seems like "Arabs" (I mean Iraqis, Syrians, Libyans, everyone in the middle east) have the sense of operating machinery, especially tanks, amputated at birth, I can't explain it any other way.

Even though the reasons for the poor professionalism in these two cases are unclear, it's important to understand the greater picture of the build up of the Syrian army.

This army was built to fight the IDF.
In the last decades, following it's failure in 1982 War, the poor Iraqi performance in the Gulf Wars, and mainly the halt of weapons flow to Syria after the disappearance of the USSR, the Syrians adopted an asymmetrical approach for the build up of their armed forces. The resources were mainly allocated to the build up of a huge BM capability and to AT infantry. Investments in the armored forces, the AF, AD, navy... became minimal. (There was some change in the last years, following the agreement with Russia to cancel Syria's debt which allowed the Syrians to renew purchases, often with Iranian financial aid, but their basic strategy of the build up of the armed forces did not change.)

In this build up, Syria's strategy is asymmetric. It is quite similar to the one of Hezbollah, but on a greater scale. The capacity to hit the Israeli rear with BMs was supposed to compensate the weakness of an antiquated AF (in comparison to the IAF), and saturated ATGMs defenses to counter IDF's modern armor.

It is quite possible that the stagnation of the build up of the Syrian armored corps resulted also in a decrease of the level of the training of the crews and in a decrease of their professional skills. This could explain their behavior in the vids we see...

Ironically, in this uprising the Syrian army faces rebels that operate along its own doctrine - an asymetrical force of AT squads - while the army employs armor to fight them in attempts to recapture the areas that they control.

[bomba]

US is using cluster munitions.

Is this justification ?

I don't get why the Syrian army does nothing to improve their tank's armor against RPGs. Sideskirts, spaced sheets of steel on the front and all around the turret, and some "slat" on the back of the tank isn't hard to make. Really, anything that leads to a premature/spaced detonation of the RPG round is probably enough to prevent penetration. They should really invest in some sideskirts and the above mentioned armor, especially when driving around inside buildings without infantry support.

Also, why do their tanks never seem to fire back? The 3 tanks that get hit by RPGs don't fire a round, the T-55 that was hit from behind the gas station doesn't turn its turret and fry them with a HE round and MG fire but instead keeps on driving blindly with its turret forward and getting shot at from behind...

It really seems like "Arabs" (I mean Iraqis, Syrians, Libyans, everyone in the middle east) have the sense of operating machinery, especially tanks, amputated at birth, I can't explain it any other way.

That sentence just made my day, good sir!

Lack of training plus not having any situational awareness at all leads to so many catastrophic losses. Is anyone counting, how many tanks and IFVs Assad has already lost?

What about Israel and Their tanks Which they lost in the war of 2006?

Are they like the Arabs and Middle Eastern as well?

[Hisroyalhighness]

Is this justification ?

No, it just shows the US still values the tactical aspects of cluster munitions. Like it or not, Cluster Bombs have been proven to be an effective wide area suppression asset.

What about Israel and Their tanks Which they lost in the war of 2006?

There's a difference between lost and immobilized.

Ontopic

[bomba]

No, it just shows the US still values the tactical aspects of cluster munitions. Like it or not, Cluster Bombs have been proven to be an effective wide area suppression asset.

There's a difference between lost and immobilized.

Ontopic

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Using cluster bombs against civilians is a war crime too heinous!

Second comment Was for those who cynically commented on the Arabs and Middle Eastern , And I do not know What does justify a spokesman for the Syrian regime And it is lying as usual, and says that the massacre that took place in the town of Altrimssh Is a battle with the militants!!!

[Hisroyalhighness]

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Using cluster bombs against civilians is a war crime too heinous!

Perhaps, or maybe the targets were FSA Militants. Either way Cluster Weapons are tactically effective, how they are used is up to the owner.

And I do not know What does justify a spokesman for the Syrian regime And it is lying as usual, and says that the massacre that took place in the town of Altrimssh Is a battle with the militants!!!

It could be true it could be false.


Ontopic:

FSA Nutjob threatening Russian Warships coming to Tartus via Radio


First time I hear a Russian speaking English with a Arabic Accent.

[Camera]

Cluster bombs are not banned. Like for antipersonnel landmines, there are countries that signed a treaty that bans them and others didn't sign the treaty.

[Hisroyalhighness]

Can someone translate this:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bf2_1...nts=1#comments

[Arbody]

FSA Nutjob threatening Russian Warships coming to Tartus via Radio

No sh!t! That was great , besides it's fake I doubt that "Russian Warship" got on the bridge someone with Arab accent English , Russian accent in English is very specific. Arab propaganda provides lot of daily LULZ "Shut your mouth Russia's very STRONG!" Pleazzzz they think that everyone is stupid as they are? Shame that lot of people from mp.net buys their BS.

[Mikhael]

First time I hear a Russian speaking English with a Arabic Accent.

Shut your mouth! Russian very strong! ( when i heard this i was crying from laughter )

[Arbody]

Shut your mouth! Russian very strong! ( when i heard this i was crying from laughter )

They should learn from the best how to speak with Russian English