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    Quote Originally Posted by Ordie View Post
    gps guided artillery shells.
    I thought ERGM was dropped years ago

    Or are you talking about Oto Melara's Vulcano rounds ?

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    I'm cautiously optimistic that these will not be white whales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xav View Post
    I thought ERGM was dropped years ago

    Or are you talking about Oto Melara's Vulcano rounds ?
    Maybe ATK's XM1156 Precision Guidance Kit (PGK)?

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    i hope more are built, they're pretty much the closest we'll get to modern day battleships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xav View Post
    I thought ERGM was dropped years ago

    Or are you talking about Oto Melara's Vulcano rounds ?
    ERGM was a for the standard Mark 45 gun on most USN Destroyers/Cruisers. The Zumwalts are armed with the 155mm AGS, which will fire LRAP.
    Quote Originally Posted by C.Puffs View Post
    I don't. I'll be surprised if Zumwalt is even in service in 5-10 years.
    Really? Bath would disagree.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellfish View Post
    I'm cautiously optimistic that these will not be white whales.
    I hope they're not but unless the USN figures out WTF they're going to do re: Zumwalts/Burke Flight III I can see them going the way of the Virginia CGNs - retired well before their time to reduce costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Puffs View Post
    I hope they're not but unless the USN figures out WTF they're going to do re: Zumwalts/Burke Flight III I can see them going the way of the Virginia CGNs - retired well before their time to reduce costs.
    I think the Zumwalts will surprise everyone.

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    Nice pics Halidon, thanks for posting them.

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    What would the proposed cost be if we'd ordered 30 of these and wanted the construction for all thirty done in 15 years? Also Nuclear powerplant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ordie View Post
    I think the Zumwalts will surprise everyone.
    And not in a good way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Puffs View Post
    And not in a good way.
    Okay............why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ordie View Post
    I think the Zumwalts will surprise everyone.
    And hopefully at the expense of the Flight IIIs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ordie View Post
    Okay............why?
    STUART SLADE ON THE DDG-1000, AUGUST 2008 (5th post down)

    http://www.tboverse.us/HPCAFORUM/php...hp?f=11&t=7041


    If you're wondering who that is:

    https://www.forecastinternational.co...roductrecno=37

    "Senior Naval & Defense Analyst
    Education: BS Chemistry, London University, United Kingdom.
    Stuart Slade is currently the primary analyst for Forecast International’s Warships Forecast and Anti-Submarine Warfare Forecast and the sole editor of International Military Markets, Asia, Australia & Pacific Rim"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dankster View Post
    And hopefully at the expense of the Flight IIIs
    I'd be happy if they just picked one or the other and figured out what the hell they were going to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soldat_Américain View Post
    What would the proposed cost be if we'd ordered 30 of these and wanted the construction for all thirty done in 15 years? Also Nuclear powerplant?
    Well if you could sign a contract tomorrow for a guaranteed 30 for 15 they'd be quite affordable, potentially averaging around $2 billion each. The problem is you can't make such a contract, between Congress and the fact that administrations change every 4 or 8 years at best you can get a 5 or 6 year contract with options, more likely you get less than that. If they put the Zumwalts into the same sort of purchase and construction cycle as the Virginia class SSNs, the first few would be about $3 billion each and the last few would be close to $2, with a downward trend (as long as production stayed at a steady rate).

    Reactor would require a redesign. Plus certification. Plus it would have to be built at Newport News (or Bath would need additional invest ment to be approved for Nuke production).

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